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To be honest I don't do much commercial painting, mostly only residential and mostly interior for the remodeling we do. I have a good client that we are going to do a full commercial remodel for. He asked if I could paint the exterior also while I'm there since we will be doing most of the other work, it's a two story brick building. I told him I would think about doing it otherwise I would help him find someone else.

My question is what is the best way to do an exterior two story, ladders or scaffolding on wheels? Not really sure if I would spray it or roll it, I have a titan 440 but a little worried about over spray outside since my sprayer experience is all indoor. Either way I will need to either climb ladders or use rolling scaffolding. I have a few 28" fiberglass ladders. I have two sections of bakers scaffolding and also have some 20' planks. But not sure what if any of this would be the best way? Just use ladders? Or a double stacked baker like this, http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200578604_200578604. Is this even osha approved? It says it is but not sure. They also have a triple stack that says osha approved, http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200640988_200640988. Or look for some used real scaffolding to make a rolling tower?
 
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Articulating boom lift can roll over different terrain, and will give you the most reach/coverage before moving.

They move quick and are indispensable for the work you are describing.

A scissors may work but you won't get near the reach as a boom.

It will make the job go quick without the liability & hassle of scaffolding.

Any of the major brands from the local rental yard should work fine.
 

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Are you painting brick or just soffit and windows? If youre painting the brick buy an extension pole for your sprayer. It puts the gun at the top of the pole with a trigger at the bottom. Mask all the windows. Spray the body from the ground. Brush and roll soffit and windows. The extension also comes in handy for 16'-20' ceilings. Also doesn't leave lap marks because you can walk the length of the wall in on continuous line, drop down and spray the next section. I can mask and spray a 2500sf house in about 5 hrs by myself.
If youre just painting soffit and windows use a ladderI stack my ladders so I can step from one to the next without coming down. My helper moves the ladders. Goes real quick that way.
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
Just painting the brick. Do you have a link to a good extension for my paint gun? Will my sherwin williams have them? I want to check them out otherwise I will go with the lift. Thanks for the advice.
 
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carzie said:
Pretty sure my SW dealer has a 2' and a 4' not sure about other sizes but I'm sure they can order it in for you.
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How long of an extension do you think I would need to do a two story building? Just guessing but probably 20' of brick. So I'm guessing I would need about 12' of extension. Unless I stand on a perry scaffolding then could have about 6-8' of extension. I did find this last night googling, http://www.zoro.com/i/G3052262/?utm...cmoBRDmysGsgbDr5j0SJAAxL9ab77NtuLwFrvz1RZziQZIz77XxKz7dyLHwBzKOOp6wkxoC6Xjw_wcB. Would this work good? Or is it going to be more pain in the rear end trying to balance a 12' long pole then it's worth?
 
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Unless you can get the tip to angle to at least 45 degrees I don't think spraying brick with a 12' extension upwardly would work properly. IMO you need to be pushing the paint into the brick more or less straight on instead of blowing it upward.

When you were asking about extension I thought it was for the purpose of being on a boom lift and being a little distance from the building.

Regardless I don't spray a lot but there is a guy in here Driftweed that does and if anyone can give u good advice it would be him. Good luck.
 
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mnld said:
That's a great pole. Buddy has the same one. I've got the four footer like that and they also make one that goes to 18 ft or so. They work good and are light.
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Thank you for the feedback. I think I'm going to order one and try it out. I'd always rather buy tools then rent a lift. But I'll budget a lift in just in case the pole doesn't work out.
 
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carzie said:
Unless you can get the tip to angle to at least 45 degrees I don't think spraying brick with a 12' extension upwardly would work properly. IMO you need to be pushing the paint into the brick more or less straight on instead of blowing it upward.

When you were asking about extension I thought it was for the purpose of being on a boom lift and being a little distance from the building.

Regardless I don't spray a lot but there is a guy in here Driftweed that does and if anyone can give u good advice it would be him. Good luck.
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Those poles tip close to180°. The gun from your sprayer clamps in the top and a cable runs down to a trigger at the bottom.
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
carzie said:
Unless you can get the tip to angle to at least 45 degrees I don't think spraying brick with a 12' extension upwardly would work properly. IMO you need to be pushing the paint into the brick more or less straight on instead of blowing it upward.

When you were asking about extension I thought it was for the purpose of being on a boom lift and being a little distance from the building.

Regardless I don't spray a lot but there is a guy in here Driftweed that does and if anyone can give u good advice it would be him. Good luck.
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http://hydestore.com/hyde-28690-7-5-12-quickreach-max-telescoping-spray-pole.html

Here's a video of it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smNQ4xq9lHo
 
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platinumLLC said:
How long of an extension do you think I would need to do a two story building? Just guessing but probably 20' of brick. So I'm guessing I would need about 12' of extension. Unless I stand on a perry scaffolding then could have about 6-8' of extension. I did find this last night googling, http://www.zoro.com/i/G3052262/?utm...cmoBRDmysGsgbDr5j0SJAAxL9ab77NtuLwFrvz1RZziQZIz77XxKz7dyLHwBzKOOp6wkxoC6Xjw_wcB. Would this work good? Or is it going to be more pain in the rear end trying to balance a 12' long pole then it's worth?
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That's the pole I was talking about. It sucks when it is fully extended. It blows off the building a little. Gives a good arm workout. However it is also very quick and keeps you off the ladder. Just takes getting used to. I think my pole is 8'-16'. I need a 8' laddder for the gable ends.

If you are only painting the brick and not the soffit I'm not sure how good it will work. Like I said theres not alot of control when it's fully extended.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
The building is a brick building with a flat roof so there is not soffit, just some metal trim at the top. So I should be able to take a couple hours to tape that and the windows and anything else and then just spray away.
 
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