Gotta Love 20 minute mud!

Calidecks · Dec 25, 2013

phmservices said:
Nice post, I've only used the all purpose and mid weight myself, should try experimenting with some faster stuff

He may not respond because the post is 5 years old

phmservices · Dec 25, 2013

Hah, perhaps not

D.E.P.S. · Dec 25, 2013

Looks great.

Paulie · Dec 26, 2013

Forgot about Genecarp. :laughing:

fifthweaver · Jun 23, 2015

Ok, I know this is an old thread but I had hit the reply button. I am fairly new to the drywall game and in the past I have always stayed away from anything other than the traditional mud (I guess I felt like I was cheating and the final product would be sub-par). I had a last minute job drop on me and I had to be in and out in one day so I opted for the 20 Min Mud. Hung 8 sheets of drywall, taped with 20MM, second coated with 20MM and final coated with Rapid coat. I was amazed! By the time I cleaned my bucket and mixed a new batch for the second coat, the wall was ready for it. By the time I clean my bucket and mixed the rapid coat the wall was ready for the final and the final skim. The final skim of Rapid Coat dried in less than half the time stated on the bucket (Im thinking the 20MM must generate some heat). I sanded, primed and painted and out of there in 7.5 hrs.

Im sold! I will never use anything else.

kingcarpenter · Jun 24, 2015

gotta love 20 minute mud

Tapingfool said:
YA!! Anything to get finished faster and make the $$$ quicker while maintaining top quality..I used 45 for 10 replacement windows used it for the no coat, then went back around and repeated but coated them, then once more to finish all one 3 hrs=$$400.00 COD!!!

Even though this post is 5 years old your pricing dates well beyond that. I know price quotes are frowned upon here but that being said 40 bucks a window is way lowball. Study up on pricing as you are only hurting us all.

TylerThePainter · Sep 3, 2015

Sir Mixalot said:
Arrival time @ customer residence 8:30am.

The Job: Repair failing tape joints @ exterior entrance ceiling. 9' x 12' and 14' up. Skim Coat entire ceiling. Re-texture ceiling. Prime and Paint.

Before repair.

Tools needed to do the mud work.

So I retaped and muded all of the tape joints 2 coats with two seperate batches of 20 minute mud. Don't have pictures of ths stage.

Skim coated one side of the vaulted ceiling. One batch of 20 minute.

Skim coated the other side of the vaulted ceiling. One batch of 20 minute.

Ate lunch.

After lunch it was dry enough to texture.

Clean up & roll up. Outta there by 2:30pm.

Next day, time to Prime w/ Zinnser 123 and Paint w/ Sherwin Williams exterior super paint.

Primed & Painted. (Took 3 hours total.)

Total time for entire job: Less than 9 hours.

Thanks Sheetrock 20 minute mud.

So I'm a little bored tonite.

What happened to the pictures!? Im interested in the results.

Sir Mixalot · Sep 3, 2015

Fixed the broken photo links from 2008.

Sir Mixalot said:
Arrival time @ customer residence 8:30am.

The Job: Repair failing tape joints @ exterior entrance ceiling. 9' x 12' and 14' up. Skim Coat entire ceiling. skip trowel texture ceiling. Prime and Paint.

Before repair.

Tools needed to do the mud work.

So I retaped and muded all of the tape joints 2 coats with two seperate batches of 20 minute mud. Don't have pictures of this stage.

Skim coated one side of the vaulted ceiling. One batch of 20 minute.

Skim coated the other side of the vaulted ceiling. One batch of 20 minute.

Ate lunch.

After lunch it was dry enough to do the skip trowel texture.

Clean up & roll up. Outta there by 2:30pm.

Next day, time to Prime w/ Zinnser 123 and Paint w/ Sherwin Williams exterior super paint.

Primed & Painted. (Took 3 hours total.)

Total time for entire job: Less than 9 hours.

Thanks Sheetrock 20 minute mud.

So I'm a little bored tonite.

Dave in Pa · Sep 3, 2015

I used 90 minute years back, then went to 45 for a few. Now , I am using the 20 for small areas, still 45, for the larger patch work, for I am getting slooow in the old age!

Did a larger patch today, went for the 20 minute, and did just fine if I can say so myself! LOL I about broke my arm after, when I went to pat myself on my back! My helper said, "wtf are you doing" I said, "don't worry, age will catch up to you in few years!" He is 26 !

Sir Mixalot · Sep 3, 2015

Dave in Pa said:
I used 90 minute years back, then went to 45 for a few. Now , I am using the 20 for small areas, still 45, for the larger patch work, for I am getting slooow in the old age!

Did a larger patch today, went for the 20 minute, and did just fine if I can say so myself! LOL I about broke my arm after, when I went to pat myself on my back! My helper said, "wtf are you doing" I said, "don't worry, age will catch up to you in few years!" He is 26 !

:laughing:
Gotta love 20 minute mud and being 26. :shutup:

Dave in Pa · Sep 3, 2015

Sir Mixalot said:
:laughing:
Gotta love 20 minute mud and being 26. :shutup:

The issue is, I am twice his age plus, my son is 25! He just watched/learning as I did the ceiling. Young guy, WANTING TO LEARN, that is real RARE around here!

I went to pat my back, I thought my arm was going to fall off, for the shoulder is shot/going! (show off)

THEN, I told him the old story of the "old bull and the young bull looking down over the hill", had a good laugh, and ended the job.

Told him, to care for the body, do what is needed, BUT someday you will feel it, regret the crap that you put yourself though when we were all young!

Then, I did, say "what I could do all night, now takes all night to do!"

Good day after all, glad to help out, and try to help out a "Future Craftsman" in training!!

Tinstaafl · Sep 3, 2015

The only problem I have with 20 minute mud is that it never dries in 20 minutes unless I'm doing a 25 minute job. :sad:

blacktop · Sep 3, 2015

Tinstaafl said:
The only problem I have with 20 minute mud is that it never dries in 20 minutes unless I'm doing a 25 minute job. :sad:

It's fast setting ..Not fast drying ! There is no such thing as a fast drying compound .

I've seen 20 min set for days before it completely cured . And painting over compounds that haven't cured out yet is a big no no!!

So ya'll go ahead and do your patches in one trip .. I'll stick to making my trips . Even 5 minute hot mud needs to cure over night .

avenge · Sep 4, 2015

Tinstaafl said:
The only problem I have with 20 minute mud is that it never dries in 20 minutes unless I'm doing a 25 minute job. :sad:

But it dries in your mud pan in 5 minutes.

blacktop · Sep 4, 2015

avenge said:
But it dries in your mud pan in 5 minutes.

sets up.

CrpntrFrk · Sep 4, 2015

blacktop said:
Even 5 minute hot mud needs to cure over night .

:no: Come here, in Arizona. Many of times I use hot mud because it does not shrink as much. Otherwise, regular mud will cure/dry just as fast as 45 minute here. Especially in the dry heat of summer.

avenge · Sep 4, 2015

blacktop said:
It's fast setting ..Not fast drying ! There is no such thing as a fast drying compound .

I've seen 20 min set for days before it completely cured . And painting over compounds that haven't cured out yet is a big no no!!

So ya'll go ahead and do your patches in one trip .. I'll stick to making my trips . Even 5 minute hot mud needs to cure over night .

I rarely get a job where I have to mud and paint the same day. I find myself using regular mud and nothing will be done with it until the following day because as you said it really isn't dry enough even for sanding much less painting.

SouthonBeach · Sep 4, 2015

I've surprised a few people with 20 min mud. 3 coats on the patch with a quick texture after a short break.
On one I told them not to paint for a few days. Dunno what happen with that one it was a short sale house that had an inspection the next day.

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blacktop · Sep 4, 2015

CrpntrFrk said:
:no: Come here, in Arizona. Many of times I use hot mud because it does not shrink as much. Otherwise, regular mud will cure/dry just as fast as 45 minute here. Especially in the dry heat of summer.

I lOVE your weather!!!!

Hot mud swells . Once it cures and another coat is placed over it ..It will swell again..

A/P Air dry muds are the only way to finish out drywall imo.

blacktop · Sep 4, 2015

SouthonBeach said:
I've surprised a few people with 20 min mud. 3 coats on the patch with a quick texture after a short break.
On one I told them not to paint for a few days. Dunno what happen with that one it was a short sale house that had an inspection the next day.

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And that's what the set muds are meant for .. High production !! Get In Get Out ! It Is what It Is !

Gotta Love 20 minute mud!

Calidecks

phmservices

D.E.P.S.

Paulie

fifthweaver

kingcarpenter

TylerThePainter

Sir Mixalot

Dave in Pa

Sir Mixalot

Dave in Pa

Tinstaafl

blacktop

avenge

blacktop

CrpntrFrk

avenge

SouthonBeach

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