We used Tavy-thin skin on a small tile job in a foyer for the first time today they say you have to skim coat the paper with thin set after u get it glued down and we had issues with it drying and we even used rapid set ... Let it sit for a hr wasn't dry went to lunch put a fan on it... Came back an hr later and it still wasn't dry do you guys have any experience or opinions on this stuff ? Feedback would be greatly appreciated ...
Tavy - thin skin ? Opinions?
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We used Tavy-thin skin on a small tile job in a foyer for the first time today they say you have to skim coat the paper with thin set after u get it glued down and we had issues with it drying and we even used rapid set ... Let it sit for a hr wasn't dry went to lunch put a fan on it... Came back an hr later and it still wasn't dry do you guys have any experience or opinions on this stuff ? Feedback would be greatly appreciated ...
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Most tile pros won't use it. They consider it crap.
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Well I consider it crap as of now too, had never used it before. Would of loved to use durock but there was less than a 1/4" to play with on the front door threshold so the HO had some handy man slid a tapered piece of wood under the metal threshold to give us clearance... So we had to use it... Always headaches working for corporate companies everybody wants it done for nothing. And they keep us on a leash!rusty baker said:
Cut off door? Install new threshold?
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The company we are subs for does not allow us to do that work so if the customer don't go for it then we have to do the best with what we were given... Besides it was only a small foyer like 4'x5' (not sure exactly) but no bigger then that its minimal job
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This is what gives pro contractors a bad name; combatting poor installs done with a "just get it done and get paid" mentality.
So that justifies a hack job?
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What just get it done and get paid mentality - we instructed the HO to get a new threshold installed but she doesn't want to spend the money so she took a shortcut ... We would love to have a new raised threshold and door installed throw down some durock and do it the right way the way we like to do it but if they don't go for that then what are we supposed to do ? Walk away from the job and then the costumer won't be happy and we won't make any money? We don't have that just get it down attitude...ArtisanRemod said:
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And I don't understand how it's a hack job it's out of our control we can only do what the company allows us to do... And we instructed the homeowner to do just like what you said but HO didn't obviously because she didn't care so we had to use the tavy thin skin because that's what the company we work for carries ... And was our best possible option to do the job as well as possible...mudpad said:
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You think we like working for these companies and there bs we have to fight with them to pay us to do leveling on laminate n glue down jobs where we spend hours grinding all the highs and using SLC on the lows getting everything 1/8" - 3/16" within 6-10 ft usually even flatter then the manufacturers specs so don't talk to me about that get in n get out mentality... I'm not like that @ all and I grew working for my father in NJ who did custom bathrooms custom kitchens I mean craftsman ship @ it's finest and I am built the same way but I am only an employee of this company, and don't have much say but I don't do work like that or think like that.
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Compromising installations because you're not "allowed" to do it correctly is what I'm talking about. Best of luck.
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If you can't do it right, you just walk away from it. That's what a pro does.
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That's usually our mentality but this is the homeowners request because she's trying to keep the job cost to a minimum we instructed her to do this and that but she didn't and the only reason we didn't turn it down is because she plans to redo her living room with engineered hardwood...the existing floor is buckling and twisting... they didn't sand or prep the sub - can see the humps and they left absolutely mo expansion it is literally almost under the baseboard... So we get labor on rip out - sanding n leveling money on the install and she wants to redo the tile in her kitchen and bathrooms...rusty baker said:
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But what you guys are all saying a 100% agree with it and i am not trying to argue or dispute that but just in between a rock and a hard place... But started a 1200 square ft laminate job today - pulled the carpet and the slab is going to require approx 11 hrs of grinding and about 8 bags SLC ... Ears are still ringing from the two big CDCLarue pulse backs and the two 7" grinders running all day .. Got my exercise in today going back n forth to the breaker box
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Haven't used tavy skin yet, not sure I ever will, rapid set by Mapei requires about 4 hours after set time to grout, I think they changed formula, use to set in about 20 minutes few years ago.
Few things- you need hearing protection or you will lose it, I too have two 1250 pulse backs and grinded today for 11 hours, you have a bosch grinder? You haven't distributed the power requirements, split on two circuits turn the lights out and use a led light headband. Jk the last part.
I have tried Ricky ticky Tavys spacers they're ok.
Few things- you need hearing protection or you will lose it, I too have two 1250 pulse backs and grinded today for 11 hours, you have a bosch grinder? You haven't distributed the power requirements, split on two circuits turn the lights out and use a led light headband. Jk the last part.
I have tried Ricky ticky Tavys spacers they're ok.
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We use mapei all the time and yeah they did change the formula (thin set and SLC). We ALWAYs leave it over night to dry before grout just to be sure that its ready... Prefer Mapei SLC and Tec for thin set.... I hate the rapid set Mapei ... I do use ear protection I was saying that as more of a joke - we have a dewalt grinder with a stand up attachment but we rarely ever use that ... We use metabo grinders w/ a CDC t-seg we take the handles off and buy these big blue square handles I forget the name we also bolt on a dust vacuum attachment and CDC rubber cupler to hook up to the vac... But yes we distributes throughout the house but the house was wired like crap we would be good for an hr with no trips and then it would trip 5 times in 20 minutes... The pulse Bacs are GREAT !!! actually if u ever need any parts/vacs t-segs or anything you can contact me my boss is a distributor for themMIKE ANTONETTI said:
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I've been debating between those and the Ryobi one that Home Depot carriesmudpad said:
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I threw my handles out and use a sponge over the top of blade area, wanting a D handle haven't searched too well.
I now buy exclusively thru Jack King all of my grinding needs. The man knows grinding!
I now buy exclusively thru Jack King all of my grinding needs. The man knows grinding!
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I think some of you are missing the fact that he's an employee. I'm one of the first to jump in and tell someone to do it right or don't do it at all. When you're an employee yo do what you're told or you go collect a check somewhere else. Reading comprehension would go a long way around here....I'm guilty of it as well.
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