cutting rolls of vycor down to size..

RobertCDF · Nov 23, 2012

JT Wood said:
dewalt 12" mitre saw.

Use an old blade

HAHAHA....

Make a video if you try this, and of course only try if you don't like your hand/arm...

I had a guy break a wormdrive saw trying to cut a roll, sawzall gums up, bandsaw wasn't tried but would have the best chance of working but I think it'll gum up real bad too.

RobertCDF · Nov 23, 2012

Try this instead it will work much better.

Once you get started it just pulls through real easy.

redwood · Nov 23, 2012

I prefer to just buy the rolls with the width I need, but I have cut some down with a sawsall. Very rough edges and the blade is pretty gummed up. But it does work. I assume that the blade can be cleaned with something.

How much can you save if you buy 36" rolls over say 6 - 6" rolls.

redwood · Nov 23, 2012

RobertCDF said:
Try this instead it will work much better.

Once you get started it just pulls through real easy.

I'm sure that it is a stupid question Rob, but how does it work. Is there a slot for the roll to move towards the blades? How are the blades held in place?

We Fix Houses · Nov 23, 2012

This is interesting.....how do you keep the utility blades in place ?

I can see once you get started it would zip right through holding tight to one side.

RobertCDF · Nov 23, 2012

We would just jam the blade into the plywood with a knife that has a quick release and then release it leaving the blade stuck good. Just unroll it flat across the plywood and once you get it going just pulling it through the blades, once you've pulled the whole roll through cut up your cardboard tube and roll them back up.

When we tried with the sawzall the cut end was so gummed up and stuck together that we could not get it to unroll without completely destroying itself.

In truth we only split 6" rolls and not a full 36" roll but we did the same thing (smaller scale) and I see no reason why a 36" would be much different.

We don't use much window tape when we switched to steel frames so I typically don't bother splitting things anymore.

Rich D. · Nov 23, 2012

So is vycor and ice and water basically the same stuff?

JT Wood · Nov 23, 2012

RobertCDF said:
HAHAHA....

Make a video if you try this, and of course only try if you don't like your hand/arm...

I had a guy break a wormdrive saw trying to cut a roll, sawzall gums up, bandsaw wasn't tried but would have the best chance of working but I think it'll gum up real bad too.

I've done it several times

Just use an old blade
it's important not to let the roll bind or it will kick

Tom M · Nov 23, 2012

Rich D. said:
So is vycor and ice and water basically the same stuff?

Yes maybe thicker...except that gracie is pretty thin.

I can see pulling a foot over the top first then pulling it after it punctured through.
Good idea Rob :thumbsup:

Rich D. · Nov 23, 2012

Ok so i sacraficed a roll of ice and water as a test dummy just now.

I tried a cordless circ saw with a 40 tooth blade and that just melted it.

So i used my olfa knife and just kept going around the roll and slicing it. Took like 5 min and worked well.

woodworkbykirk · Nov 23, 2012

Rich D. said:
So is vycor and ice and water basically the same stuff?

vycor is rubberized, ice and water is asphalt based.. two different things.. you cant use ice and water on vinyl windows and doors and not expect to get a reaction causing the vinyl to break down

as for cutting it.. a band saw will get destroyed from all the gum up. a recip will work just have a bbq lighter right next to you and a bucket of cold water.. the lighter will burn off the gum then cool the blade in the water

last year i worked on a 86 unit building that had something like 500 windows.. of which there were only 3 sizes.. the whole building got blueskin of which took over a dozen pallets worth to cover the building.. we cut lenghts of it off the roll to the lenght needed to flash the windows and doors then cut that down to 6`strips.. one guy cutting the other guy installing.. we had a story pole marked out for the lenghths to cut off the role and the widths..

weve talked about doing the same thing for windows and doors at work (different compay... residential) using nudura membrane instead since we get it for much cheaper than what we pay for the same sq ft worth of vycor

FramingPro · Nov 23, 2012

woodworkbykirk said:
vycor is rubberized, ice and water is asphalt based.. two different things.. you cant use ice and water on vinyl windows and doors and not expect to get a reaction causing the vinyl to break down

as for cutting it.. a band saw will get destroyed from all the gum up. a recip will work just have a bbq lighter right next to you and a bucket of cold water.. the lighter will burn off the gum then cool the blade in the water

last year i worked on a 86 unit building that had something like 500 windows.. of which there were only 3 sizes.. the whole building got blueskin of which took over a dozen pallets worth to cover the building.. we cut lenghts of it off the roll to the lenght needed to flash the windows and doors then cut that down to 6`strips.. one guy cutting the other guy installing.. we had a story pole marked out for the lenghths to cut off the role and the widths..

weve talked about doing the same thing for windows and doors at work (different compay... residential) using nudura membrane instead since we get it for much cheaper than what we pay for the same sq ft worth of vycor

nudura membrane is nice
i was flashing windows with blue skin... uhh lets just say.. if its it supposed to look like a raisin, then i did it right :whistling

woodworkbykirk · Nov 23, 2012

cut your piece to lenght nick, then roll it back up really tight.. only peel off a foot or so of paper at a time. makes it much easier to work with and you dont get it stuck to itself also makes for a far cleaner job

some guys pull the paper off the entire length and try to install it... doesnt work so well and even worse if its windy out

Rich D. · Nov 23, 2012

Anyone using ice and water sheild for behind deck ledgers and on top of beams?

RobertCDF · Nov 24, 2012

Rich D. said:
Ok so i sacraficed a roll of ice and water as a test dummy just now.

I tried a cordless circ saw with a 40 tooth blade and that just melted it.

So i used my olfa knife and just kept going around the roll and slicing it. Took like 5 min and worked well.

Are you able to unroll it without the cut end sticking to the next layer? That was the issue we ran into with anything that got it hot.

Rich D. · Nov 24, 2012

RobertCDF said:
Are you able to unroll it without the cut end sticking to the next layer? That was the issue we ran into with anything that got it hot.

The saw i tried melted it and it did stick together. I stopped that quickly. I then just grabed my olfa snap off utilty knife, (which i used for the length of the blade) and started manually going around the roll and slicing it. That worked good.

Are you using ice & water on ur decks or vycor?

RobertCDF · Nov 24, 2012

we dont use it much with the steel frame so we just grab vycor window tape when we do need it.

Rich D. · Nov 24, 2012

RobertCDF said:
we dont use it much with the steel frame so we just grab vycor window tape when we do need it.

What do you use behind the ledger?

RobertCDF · Nov 24, 2012

Rich D. said:
What do you use behind the ledger?

Most of the time there is an existing ledger with paper behind from the stucco. We just remove the old ledger and install a new steel one.

Rich D. · Nov 24, 2012

Oh i deal with more siding. Not to much stucco around here.

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