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They let me use one for a big ipe deck. Customer decided he wanted another clip other than tigerclaws so sent it back. However I did test it out & seemed like it would be a great time saver if you did a lot of grooved composite decks.
 
screws are collated, and you put the clip in each time. I am using this gun currently and it is about the 5th time i have used it, my lumberyard loans it out when you buy the clips there. It is a great time saver, the only thing i don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to push the board in tight to the previous board like it does when you screw it
 
oldhouseluvr said:
screws are collated, and you put the clip in each time. I am using this gun currently and it is about the 5th time i have used it, my lumberyard loans it out when you buy the clips there. It is a great time saver, the only thing i don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to push the board in tight to the previous board like it does when you screw it
Adjusting air pressure up, can help drive the scrail tighter, also make sure the gun sets flat and the plank is pushed tight before you nail. The only issue is if you ever have to take a piece up. Happened to us when we noticed a composite piece had a slight gouge and we cut it out and replaced it with hand screw clips
 
killerdecks said:
how many is a bulk purchase?
It was 6 pails that got three guns, may not be bulk for the kind of purchasing your used to(wholesale) each pail is about 300 to 400 bucks, and scrails sold seperately for something like $80.00 It has made a night and day differencs in our installs
 
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pails? scrails? these are terms I know nothing of.
How many in a pail? and a scrail is? I know of several places to buy this stuff but have never investigated as I thought the whole system is overpriced. Am asking so I can go in with a reasonable amount of intel.
Have an offer on the table for under .35 a clip just wanted to know where that sits. Really if people got together on this site, prices could drop in a co op type way. No one wants to talk about money around here, but why do people do business in the 1st place. Saving money on supplys goes a long way to the bottom and the line ability to get jobs etc.
Lots of people will have you believe that superior work outsells everything, but what if you could offer both?
 
pails? scrails? these are terms I know nothing of.
How many in a pail? and a scrail is? I know of several places to buy this stuff but have never investigated as I thought the whole system is overpriced. Am asking so I can go in with a reasonable amount of intel.
Have an offer on the table for under .35 a clip just wanted to know where that sits. Really if people got together on this site, prices could drop in a co op type way. No one wants to talk about money around here, but why do people do business in the 1st place. Saving money on supplys goes a long way to the bottom and the line ability to get jobs etc.
Lots of people will have you believe that superior work outsells everything, but what if you could offer both?
Pail is 900 clips, and enough to do 500 s.f.
Scrail is a screw-nail
For grooved composite I cant think of a faster, better way, the clips are expensive to buy but completely pay for themselves, there stainless steel too.

The scrails come collated and you hook a clip on the specially designed nose of the gun
And actually shoot the scrail. The scrails almost look like a ring shank. They shoot like a nail and back out with a screw gun like a screw.
 
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I bought one last year and used it on a 600 sq ft timber tech deck. I was pleased with how well it worked. :thumbsup: I'm not an expert on decks, but do them occasionally. This one was on a house I framed out in the boonies with half the deck covered with a walkout under. Pretty much had to frame the deck to do the porch roof, so I bid that and got it, then did the hardie board siding, too. The fasteners are pricey, but I guess the decking is too. I only paid for the gun. (Its for sale 20% off what I paid if anybody is interested)
 
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Californiadecks said:
Pail is 900 clips, and enough to do 500 s.f.
Scrail is a screw-nail
For grooved composite I cant think of a faster, better way, the clips are expensive to buy but completely pay for themselves, there stainless steel too.

The scrails come collated and you hook a clip on the specially designed nose of the gun
And actually shoot the scrail. The scrails almost look like a ring shank. They shoot like a nail and back out with a screw gun like a screw.
I might restate the fact that the pail of clips doesn't come with the scrails, those are purchased separately, for about 80 or 90 bucks, this fastening system is so important to my jobs I don't think twice about using them.
 
Not exactly, the scrails are the fasteners. it's a play on words. A cross between a nail and a screw. Here's a picture.
 

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The Timber Tech Concealoc clips are made by Tiger Claw also used in the same gun, I don't think you can use them with any other decking manufactures. They are $450 for 500 sq ft - 5 galon pal with nailscrews included.
 

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