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My customer's designer is calling out for the Halo Clear Alzac w/ Paintable Flange to be painted with SW Flat that is the same as the Ceiling Paint.

My Electrician and I think this is not the best idea but as they say...designers know best and so far he's trumping our hand.

Any concerns, considerations or tips to painting these things?
 
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Temperature is the issue.

If the bulb is one that will get hot, you may need a high temperature paint. Latex is probably not going to cut it.
 
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Creter said:
Agree with you there and they are going with LED lighting.
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We paint all of our trims..always! The "white" from the factory will always yellow. When matching the ceiling color we always use the same paint. Never once had an issue and have been doing it this way for 12 years. We also paint any wall registers the wall color to try and blend them the best we can. Just use denatured alcohol to clean them before you paint.
 
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Ohio painter said:
I too always paint the recessed light trim to match the ceiling. Infact I also caulk them to make them blend seemlessly into the ceiling.
No issues.
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Thats you doing that.. :detective:
 
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Nice input fellas and thanks.

Up to this point all my clients have gone with the fake metal colored trim.

How do you go about painting them? If as you said you caulk them in, I am going to guess that after drywall finish you install the trims. Caulk them in and then cut them in as you would anything else and roll out?

Thanks again guys!
 
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Creter said:
Nice input fellas and thanks.

Up to this point all my clients have gone with the fake metal colored trim.

How do you go about painting them? If as you said you caulk them in, I am going to guess that after drywall finish you install the trims. Caulk them in and then cut them in as you would anything else and roll out?

Thanks again guys!
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I don't ever caulk them in...if you need to remove it down the line it will prove problematic. Clean the trim with denatured alcohol or lacquer thinner, put paint in spray gun, spray, let dry.
 
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I would never caulk the trim ring but we paint them (a/c vents too) frequently. If there is just a few of them I will set them up outside, sand them lightly with some 220, wipe down with paint thinner, spray with zinnser (oil, aerosol), and hand paint with the same paint we use on the ceiling. If there is a lot of them I will take them home and set up the sprayer. Never had a call back on any of them. A/c vents I won't paint if they show signs of sweating.
 
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Creter said:
My customer's designer is calling out for the Halo Clear Alzac w/ Paintable Flange to be painted with SW Flat that is the same as the Ceiling Paint.

My Electrician and I think this is not the best idea but as they say...designers know best and so far he's trumping our hand.

Any concerns, considerations or tips to painting these things?
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Paint them before they are installed... :thumbsup:

There's nothing wrong with painting the trim... caulking? I don't see any benefit of that... the trim is one of those things that blend in with the decor. But if you really feel the need to "seal" it to make it blend... just use the paint... it's done all the time (we don't bother though)... certainly easier to remove with a blade than caulk...
 
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WATCH OUT FOR DESIGNERS, THEY OFTEN KNOW SQUAT! I had one advise my client to "varnish" a faux finish with a mat varnish. No such product existed in painters world. She had me coat it in Moores clear coat mat varnish and the danged s**t ruined the whole job. I got materials replaced by Benny Moore because they had agreed with the designer! All the work had to be redone. (depressing as heck!) Worse, after all that, the witch was still insisting a mat varnish could be applied and I used the wrong product. Finally in desperation, I asked my artist supply if water color varnish could be purchased by the gallon. They were shocked but assured me it was possible at over $200 a gallon! I told the client and was close to shock when the client said, "OK, If that's what it costs, that's what it costs, do it." I have absolutely no idea how well the water color varnish will wear on walls but I applied it and never heard back. The client was happy when I was leaving. DESIGNERS!!:censored:
 
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JTemple said:
WATCH OUT FOR DESIGNERS, THEY OFTEN KNOW SQUAT! I had one advise my client to "varnish" a faux finish with a mat varnish. No such product existed in painters world. She had me coat it in Moores clear coat mat varnish and the danged s**t ruined the whole job. I got materials replaced by Benny Moore because they had agreed with the designer! All the work had to be redone. (depressing as heck!) Worse, after all that, the witch was still insisting a mat varnish could be applied and I used the wrong product. Finally in desperation, I asked my artist supply if water color varnish could be purchased by the gallon. They were shocked but assured me it was possible at over $200 a gallon! I told the client and was close to shock when the client said, "OK, If that's what it costs, that's what it costs, do it." I have absolutely no idea how well the water color varnish will wear on walls but I applied it and never heard back. The client was happy when I was leaving. DESIGNERS!!:censored:
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PS: I immediately changed my credentials to say "interior design / artist" and refused advise from lawyer wife/designers! They can bury you in complications!
 
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Creter said:
My customer's designer is calling out for the Halo Clear Alzac w/ Paintable Flange to be painted with SW Flat that is the same as the Ceiling Paint.

My Electrician and I think this is not the best idea but as they say...designers know best and so far he's trumping our hand.

Any concerns, considerations or tips to painting these things?
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Heat will change the color and it will look like crap.

Why can't they just get matching trims?:blink:
 
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