Ok here is the sit-you-mo-ation i tiled up two custom shower surrounds and normally when i get to the shower valve controls i cut so the tile avoids the holes where the plumber needs to screw on the trim. But this time the plumber says i need to cut out more tile because there are to valves on the assembly that need to be turned on and he cant get to them. Here is the question i have been making the same cuts for about 8 years and never had a problem soooooo wouldnt it make more sense that if there are valves on this unit that the plumber forgot to turn them on before tile was done?.......hmmmmmmm watcha think
Tile cut too close to plumbers shower valve?
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I was not suggesting drinking on the job...
....I was mearly suggesting that over the years I have made plenty of other contractor friends (who have bought me a beer or two at the appropriate place and time)....by being a responsible and caring contractor myself.circular saw? WTF?
At the very least, grab the cheap $8 diamond hole saw from a local Home Crappo, and use that to trim the tile.
I didnt know integral stops were standard everywhere but Virginia... It's not a pointless thing, it's a great time saver when one has to swap out the cartridge.
At the very least, grab the cheap $8 diamond hole saw from a local Home Crappo, and use that to trim the tile.
I didnt know integral stops were standard everywhere but Virginia... It's not a pointless thing, it's a great time saver when one has to swap out the cartridge.
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This whole thing is just wrong. It's the plumbers fault for bringing modern plumbing to Eastern Virginia. Everything would be OK if he didn't get the new fangled plumbing whacha macallit with those fancy stopper jobbies. They don't need those New York city valves. No sir!
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circular saw whoops i meant belt sander
ah, now he's just messing with us... Everyone knows you're supposed to use a Hilti TE500...
Naw Alex, you don't need that kind of power. I'd just use my Bosch Bulldog Extreme. :thumbsup:ah, now he's just messing with us... Everyone knows you're supposed to use a Hilti TE500...
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Funny that because I'm in Virginia and see them all time! ESP on higher end valves. All you need to do is drill a couple of holes right where the shutoffs are so that they can be got at when the cover is removed.
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The valves control water temp. The plumber must be able to access in able to set hot water max temp to local code. My brother in-law is a journey man plumber, I have followed him many times and had to call him about many "new" rough in kits from various manufacturers. Fix it for the plumber and in the future you should pic all rough in kits then goggle for specs. When you find a lemon find a friend with vodka and have a party. Good luck
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not to sure about it being a control for water temp the assembly already has that on it with the plastic sets.But anyways i went back and i bought a bit for my rotozip i cant remember the name right now but totally buzzed right through porcelain, job all done and plumber is happy.
Good on you Andy. :thumbsup:
Prolly one of these, perfect choice for this particular job.
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Those are service stops, so that the body can be repaired without shutting off the main. Like they said just cut it out, no big deal
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Angus I think we still need some more hashing out here. :blink:
Everyone should be clear that those integral stops are not design to balance out the water temperature and as mentioned there are little plastic stops for this.
While we are talking about plumbing rough in's it should be mentioned that when you bring the plumber in tell him to read the instructions. I can not tell you how many times you get a line like,
"Must be some debris in the line that jammed the cartridge"
In the instructions these rough ins all say something like
"Insure the cartridge is removed and the lines are flushed before installing."
This point holds true with toilets, faucets and such.
Make the plumber flush the lines are tell him he can re and re the cartridges on his own dime if does not.
OK that's it.
JW
Everyone should be clear that those integral stops are not design to balance out the water temperature and as mentioned there are little plastic stops for this.
While we are talking about plumbing rough in's it should be mentioned that when you bring the plumber in tell him to read the instructions. I can not tell you how many times you get a line like,
"Must be some debris in the line that jammed the cartridge"
In the instructions these rough ins all say something like
"Insure the cartridge is removed and the lines are flushed before installing."
This point holds true with toilets, faucets and such.
Make the plumber flush the lines are tell him he can re and re the cartridges on his own dime if does not.
OK that's it.
JW
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You guys are the bestes and HS345 that is the exact bit had a spray bottle on it as well.
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