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Discussion starter · #25 ·
You can't though, Padstones and I-Beams look nothing alike. An I Beam is a Beam and a Padstone is what is above, a concrete stone so the Padstones are not called I-Beams.
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
You can't though, Padstones and I-Beams look nothing alike. An I Beam is a Beam and a Padstone is what is above, a concrete stone so the Padstones are not called I-Beams.
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Somehow you are confused. I don't think anyone thinks they are the same. These are some of the smartest guys on the internets in here, trust me they know the difference.
 
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Well my manager who is also a builder said I-Beams are not even close to what a Pad Stone is, I am looking for the name for what the 'I-Beam' is resting on (In the UK its called a padstone).
 
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dbrons said:
Yeah NJBrickie noticed that yesterday....post #14
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Obviously, but from time to time you will see the same answer in a thread because the same question is being asked..its not that unusual.

EPP, you seem to know what you want and what it looks like. If you do, call them whatever you want and use them. You asked if the little stones in the picture were called an I beam or springer. The way the question is asked implied you didn't know the difference in the description.
 
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stonecutter said:
Obviously, but from time to time you will see the same answer in a thread because the same question is being asked..not unusual if the same question is being asked.

EPP, you seem to know what you want and what it looks like. If you do, call them whatever you want and use them. You asked if the little stones in the picture were called an I beam or springer. The way the question is asked implied you didn't know the difference in the description.
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Stonecutter, how can I call them whatever I want when I need to find them on home depot or Lowes or anyother big hardware store in the US, after this I then have to input them into the program, how can I do that without knowing the proper technical name for a padstone?
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
Well my manager who is also a builder said I-Beams are not even close to what a Pad Stone is, I am looking for the name for what the 'I-Beam' is resting on (In the UK its called a padstone).
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Obviously there is not a well accepted name for this particular piece of CMU

Here are you answers by the wizened grand masters of masonry.
TSC - Lintel
stonecutter and others - stringer
DD - impost
dbrons - point at which the beam is bearing on the wall

Take you pick and run with it.
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
Stonecutter, how can I call them whatever I want when I need to find them on home depot or Lowes or anyother big hardware store in the US, after this I then have to input them into the program, how can I do that without knowing the proper technical name for a padstone?
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How about grey solid concrete brick...That should work if you go to a big box store...if you are shopping there for your material, a technical name will just break the brain of the employee anyway.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
I can't run with any of them unless they are correct, Lintel is not correct, Stringer is also not correct, Nor in impost.

Just looked at every single one and they look nothing like and do not even resemble a padstone.
 
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I am not personally buying it, I work for a company which is developing building software for builders like yourselves. I do need the name of the item so I can look online and fine a price for it.

The program is there to let builders estimate how much one of their projects will cost.
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
I can't run with any of them unless they are correct, Lintel is not correct, Stringer is also not correct, Nor in impost.

Just looked at every single one and they look nothing like and do not even resemble a padstone.
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What will you do if there is NOT a standard name for this piece of CMU?
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
I am not personally buying it, I work for a company which is developing building software for builders like yourselves. I do need the name of the item so I can look online and fine a price for it.

The program is there to let builders estimate how much one of their projects will cost.
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This is a golden opportunity to make up a name for this piece of CMU.

I would suggest the John Jingleheimer Schmidt block. We can all run with that and there will be no confusion in this forum concerning that piece of CMU ever again. Now the guys at HD will still be in the dark but we can't save the whole world.
 
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Well my manager who is also a builder said I-Beams are not even close to what a Pad Stone is, I am looking for the name for what the 'I-Beam' is resting on (In the UK its called a padstone).
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:whistling Like lucachuci said, we know the difference. As an aside, someone just mentioned that the beam is known, here in the USA, as an Ibeam.

And the answer to your question is early in the thread too. The piece the beam bears on is called a CMU. What we're saying is there is no special name commonly used for that part. The CMU you've pictured above would be called, simply, a brick.

Your plan would have a notation saying something like "beam bears on 4x8x16 cmu and 8x8 bearing plate embedded 16 inces"

Us Yanks we're kinda coarse you know :) And terms like springers, skew backs etc are not used much anymore and where they are, you'll find different parts of the country have different terms so for clarity, the drawings we follow use the generic term CMU which means basicaly, block or brick.

Dave
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
I am pretty sure a company like home depot or lowes will not sell a piece of equipment called this lol.
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I am pretty sure that most professionals stay as far away from the DIY boxstores as possible. I know I would never go to home depot for a John Jingleheimer Schmidt block, they are WAY too specialized.
 
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EPP_Aidan said:
Well my manager who is also a builder said I-Beams are not even close to what a Pad Stone is, I am looking for the name for what the 'I-Beam' is resting on (In the UK its called a padstone).
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When a beam is used the opening for the beam is called a beam pocket. The beam is usually rested on a poured cell and or course with steel reinforcement. Im not sure if these solid blocks are used much. Perhaps back in the day when pouring the cells wasnt as common.
 
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