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Old 10-11-2015, 09:21 AM   #1
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for you guys doing log/wood homes. I am having a hard time finding a tape that doesn't leave glue behind on windows. I have been using green painters tape followed by tuct tape (ugly if it gets on the glass) or duct tape and poly. the painters tape works well as long as it doesn't get hit with media. then its a nightmare to remove too.
is there a better, faster, easier way?
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Old 10-12-2015, 06:02 AM   #2
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I don't know a thing about sandblasting but maybe liquid mask the glass then duct tape to that when its dry. The film peals right off when your done.



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Depending on the trim on the homes, wood plastic or aluminum.
Using auto body yellow tape (like painters bile tape but sticky) for under layment, then 3mil plastic in middle of window stick down sides of plastic with boat shrink wrap tape 2 or 4".
Leaves no residues.
As a hint..
1. Do not put large area of shrink wrap tape to glass it sticks really really good and comes of hard.
2. When putting yellow tape on window, leave a 1/2" of window open between sides for boat tape to stick to glass. So plastic will not blow off.
3. Use a painters metal spray shield to block blast over spray from hitting glass or trim.
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I switched to walnut shells for blasting log and cedar homes.

Walnuts don't etch glass... so I save time not having to tape the glass.... PLUS I can recycle the walnuts up to 4 times by reclaiming and rescreening it for use the next day.

Just did this house last week

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All done with walnut shells!
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thanks for the replies guys.

Master, no problems with your stain companies using walnut or cob on houses? my stain guys will not warranty a organic product shot on wood. I am told it will mold eventually and the stain will fail.
im not in the stain world so I don't know, I am just told by the companies who hire me it has to be glass or garnet. timber pro is one stain who will not endorse or warranty any organic style media.
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thanks for the replies guys.

Master, no problems with your stain companies using walnut or cob on houses? my stain guys will not warranty a organic product shot on wood. I am told it will mold eventually and the stain will fail.
im not in the stain world so I don't know, I am just told by the companies who hire me it has to be glass or garnet. timber pro is one stain who will not endorse or warranty any organic style media.
No, I haven't had any problems with stain company warranties... I suppose I'll have to look into that.

Isn't wood organic?
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wood is organic but it being impregnated by another different organic matter (that sounds so dirty) I am on the timber pro list of approved blasters (whatever that means, they have never given me any work) and his first lecture was no walnut or cob at all with their products as it will mold if that stuff is stuck in the cracks. siding I don't see a big issue its log that would be a bigger problem I think.
maybe they just make bad stain? id like to talk to the big stain companies and see what they say. perma-chink sells cob and stain so must not be a issue with them but would be good to know for sure.

ill do some research too
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perma-chink no longer lists cob on their site. I emailed Behr, perma chink and sikkens and will post what I get back.
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for you guys doing log/wood homes. I am having a hard time finding a tape that doesn't leave glue behind on windows. I have been using green painters tape followed by tuct tape (ugly if it gets on the glass) or duct tape and poly. the painters tape works well as long as it doesn't get hit with media. then its a nightmare to remove too.
is there a better, faster, easier way?
Stucco tape is designed for this purpose - it's red, white or black and quite shiny, not the duct tape cloth style, but polyethylene.

I use it for everything these days and love it.

http://www.electrotape.com/polyethyl...ucco-tape.aspx
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thanks super, I am checking on a dealer in Canada.

Master.
got some responses.
Behr stain says. (I said I blasted with glass, but was curious about organic medias)
" Media blasting isnít something weíve tested with our wood stains however I can understand the concern with mold growing on the surface after staining. Since youíre using crushed glass though, we donít see this being an issue. Normally the recommended ways to remove our stains would be to use a paint stripper, sanding, or power washing (on a low setting). "

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Thanks for contacting PPG Sikkens\ProLuxe Technical Service Department. Using any carbon based organic materials for media blasting can lead to material being inject or infused into the wood substrate. The material itself can later become a food source for any mildew or mold formation, provide the environmental conditions are conducive to the formation.

The use of the organic media, is a great way of removing a finish without damage to the substrate and we have recommend such media many times, provided that after the removal of the stain, the wood be cleaned and sterilized using 4 ounce of TSP, mixed with 1 quart of outdoor bleach and 3 quarts of potable water. The cleaning solution is then removed with a light pressure washing at less than 500 psi and allowed to dry for at least 3 good drying days.



just like any other job we do I suppose just be careful. good info though
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Good stuff ratherberacin!

One other note and that is there is a big difference between walnut shells and corncob, corncob does hold moisture while walnut shells are hard just like wood that's being blasted and don't really hold moisture.

I suppose bleach and water followed by pressure washing is the answer.

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I have used Frog tape and cut a cardboard and held it when using glass media but I do not tape windows or doors when using Corn or Walnut .
I did switch to a Fan tip nozzle for Glass use this last time and found windows and door trim easier to remove failed stain .
I haven`t had issues with mold since after my first blast job with Corn cob .
I had some small piles about maybe 16 oz is size that molded and since then I do a better job of clean-up but it was not on the wood but on the ground .
Since we stained it we just cleaned the wood of any media in checks or crevices with a air nozzle or brush .
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Wow, Nice work !
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Hey guys any advice on what and how to bid on these gates? I'm very new to the industry
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Didn't you just get spanked on another thread for asking about pricing?

What do gates have to do with window masking?

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