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Old 03-10-2015, 11:07 AM   #1
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Anyone Ever Made There Own Hold Tight/Blast Hold?


I was just thinking on how difficult it would be to make your own holdtight or blasthold liquid spray in a yard sprayer. I know pH has a lot to do with it, it would just be nice to be able to have your own recipe for when you need those extra few days. Does anybody have any recipes for this, or is it best just to go by the product.
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Old 03-10-2015, 06:54 PM   #2
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Re: Anyone Ever Made There Own Hold Tight/Blast Hold?


Old school body shop guys used apple cider vinegar to prep bare metal surfaces and as a very light rust converter.

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I use for rust protection after blasting phosphoric acid (solv in destyl water) great thing but only for couple weeks.
As long as u meaning blasthold-expoxy primer. Im not familiar with the name and could be misleading...
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Hold Tight 102 is pricey. I was talking with a guy he was saying they use product called "tank safe" I think it was. Says it was a lot cheaper in cost. Guess they use it for water treatment with some fire trucks on tanks that are metal.
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Pricey is really not valid. Either you want your steel to rust or not. Have you looked at hold blast from Chlor*Rid?
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If you had two products tho that offer the same results for rust protection and one was twice the cost or even more it wold make the most sense to me to go with the cheaper one. I totally agree on the fact of getting what you pay for and if it's something you need or is required to have you can't skimp on it if you want to have a good name for yourself.
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I've just always used what worked best and as far as cost, as long as it worked, it was just a job cost that went into my pricing.
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I'm looking into it now. Can it be applied with a pump sprayer? Im just looking for something simple and quick. I'll
Look into both. Thanks, I just hate when someone is late to pick something up, that little flash rust looks bad. And I would like to offer it as a selling point.
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It can be, but it works best when added to your blast water. It will last for three to four days as long as it stays dry. Gets rained on and it will rust back as with any of the other products will.
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I'm looking into it now. Can it be applied with a pump sprayer? Im just looking for something simple and quick. I'll
Look into both. Thanks, I just hate when someone is late to pick something up, that little flash rust looks bad. And I would like to offer it as a selling point.
No, I am under the I impression based off of directly speaking with the companies rep. That it needs to be applied with a minimum of 4000psi pressure washer or the equivalent. It is not a phosphoric or "wash primer" that is painted on or spritzed on. It is kind of like a really really ultra soft water that works it's way into the micro pores and fissures int he surface removing any and all salts and contaminants.

Once again I am not basing this on anything other than what the rep told me from a his mouth to my ears at the last trade show I attended.

Note** this most likely was Chlor-rid and not specifically Hold Tight...
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Blastserv, your thinking about Chlor*Rid. This is Hold Blast by Chlor*Rid. Used in the blast water or can be applied after blast either way. Chlor*Rid itself will not stop rust though. Just removes the salts from the surface. Once applied the surface would have to reblasted again per spec. Corrosion would then be very slow to come back. But the product I was referring to was Hold Blast from the makers of Chlor*Rid.
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Easy solution just blast at 4000 psi hahaha
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I'd like to see pictures of that!
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I've used both Hold Tite and Hold Blast from Chlor-rid. My preference is Hold Blast. I use a Geo-Blaster and have a 400 Gal. tank plus the geo tank. I'll fill the large tank with approx 200 gal. and put in 1 gal. of Hold Blast and blast most of the day with no problems and no flash rust. Hold Tite with the same 200 gal., 1 gal. mix will rust almost immediately. With Hold Tite, (102) I believe it's 102, I must use a mixture of at least 50 to 1. or almost 4 gal. of hold tite. I now keep 2 extra 5's on hand of Hold Blast. and guess what!!! Hold Blast is cheaper.....
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Bob, Hold Tight is suggested to use at least 1:100 with water.

How much they asking for Hold Blast?
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http://www.chlor-rid.com/holdblast/holdblastData.pdf

http://www.chlor-rid.com/productInfo/hbbrochure.pdf

Here's the data sheet. It depends on what your doing as far as how to dilute. Cleaner water, less dilution.
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what are you doing to get cleaner water? or you just using tap water?
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I myself don't do anything with the water except test it with a test kit from Chlor*Rid to see what the chloride content is. The higher the chloride content, then the faster the steel will flash rust.
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Buy your rust inhibitor in 55 gallon drums to reduce costs. If your buying Hold Tight in gal. or 5 gal. your paying a premium.
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Hold Blast in 5's from Chlor-Rid runs around $175. del/No. Nev. Hold Tite from Sherwin Williams runs $220

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