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Old 10-19-2010, 09:39 AM   #1
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I was thinking about mounting my equipment in an enclosed trailer. I'm looking for some feedback on this. I realize I would need to pipe the exhaust of the compressor outside but would there be any other issues that I may be overlooking.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:37 PM   #2
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Re: Advice On Enclosed Trailer Or Box Truck


Look back at some older posts there is quite a bit of info on this.

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That is a good thread!

I'm going through the process now of putting together the specs for a second blasting vehicle.

Right now we're leaning toward a Isuzu or Mitz box van with insulated walls and either a propane or electric heater in it so our Farrow System doesn't go below freezing this winter. (that's the only problem with our farrow system is it uses water and when it's below 30 you have problems.)

What I like about the Isuzu or Mitz box vans is they have a small foot print, they use a reliable 4 cylinder diesel engine and there's plenty of room on the sides to promote the business.

Anyway as the project comes together I'll post pictures.
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Check this one out Blaster lots more info.
https://www.contractortalk.com/f95/in...trailer-71542/
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BullDogMedia GMC cube truck photo: https://www.contractortalk.com/f95/po...52/#post440567

This guy BullDogMedia has a nice rig and it's along the same lines of what I'm putting together with a Farrow System 450 flowmax pot and an Airman 185 compressor:
http://www.farrowsystem.com/products...stem450max.asp

What's nice about BullDogMedia GMC cube truck is that it has a small foot print and doesn't takes up a lot of space on a project site, everything is self contained and you can store everything in one spot.

BullDogMedia... nice set-up!

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That's cool that some people referenced my posts about building my trailer. It makes me happy when information is useful to others.

I've been using the trailer for the better part of a year now and I don't think there is much I would change about the set up. One thing I would change is instead of having a gas cap on the outside of the trailer with a tube running into the tank, I would put in a 1' square door near the tank and put the gas in that way. I still may do this eventually.

Here are a few keys that have worked out well:
*Ensure that you have more than enough airflow to let your compressor breath. Obviously the rear opens all of the way and then I have a 4'x2' door in the front that I bought new off of Ebay for $40. I bungee the front door open when in use and it works extremely well. The fans on the compressor and inter cooler suck air from the rear and push it out the front.
*I like having the exhaust go through the roof. It keeps it out of the way and then you aren't blowing exhaust on anything you might be near. I used the tractor flapper thing off of the stock set up to prevent water from entering while it is off.
*I have a 16' trailer and wouldn't really go any smaller. I had a full pallet left at the end of a job and we used a forklift to place it in the back of the trailer. It was a little too much weight, but the point is, you want to have room for a pallet if need be.

Like I said I have loved my set up and get compliments almost everywhere I take it.

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Johnny,

What do you figure the weight is on your rig.

I'm undesided to go with a box truck or trailer, and the weight issue is the big concern.

with out the trailer I gain 2000 lbs more that I can put onto the truck.
but the trailer is good if you have a truck problem, drop it and get it latter type of thing.

do you tow with a one ton or 3/4?

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Johnny,

What do you figure the weight is on your rig.

I'm undesided to go with a box truck or trailer, and the weight issue is the big concern.

with out the trailer I gain 2000 lbs more that I can put onto the truck.
but the trailer is good if you have a truck problem, drop it and get it latter type of thing.

do you tow with a one ton or 3/4?

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Jim, I'm going with a Isuzu cube van http://www.isuzucv.com/nseries/n_photo.html with either an Airman PDS185S or a PDS400S stuffed in the back and a Farrow System blasting pot inside as well.

What's nice about the Isuzu cube van is: 1. they have a small foot print on the street so they don't take up much room on a job-site. 2. turning radius is ridiculously small.. like turning on a dime. 3. the cabs are nice and roomy. 4. the cube can be switched from one chassis to the other easily.. so once build you only have to buy a new chassis every 250,000 miles. Not just that, but they're low maintenance and run forever.

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I figure that the trailer altogether is around 5,000 pounds (trailer, compressor, pot, tools, and a few hundred pounds of media). It tows extremely well with my 2500 Suburban.

If I ever need a second trailer I will probably go with a box truck. Here is a list of pros/cons of trailer vs. box truck.

Pro Box truck:
*overall shorter wheel base compared to truck/trailer, easier to get into places
*a little roomier on the inside

Pro Trailer:
* I love how it is low to the ground and very easy to get into to adjust the pot or to refill it. Even though my pot is removable for distance I've never had to remove it.
* I can leave the trailer in a small area and use the truck to go to lunch, pick up supplies, etc while somebody still blasts.
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Thanks Johnny,

Both are good points and is the reason I can't deside on.

I've been looking at a class "B" license ....

After reading I realized that and trailer being towed in excess of 10,000 lbs (including the trailer weight) the driver needs a class CDL license

Maine states it as:

"A trailer with a GVWR or gross weight of more than 10,000 pounds...)
you need a CDL.

plus if DOT stops by: the truck must be registed for combinded weight of Gross trailer weight and gross truck weight. (truck, trailer and all equipment weight)

If i go with a box truck, I can save 2000 lbs of trailer, and can put that weight to more grit or something.

But like the idea of not being far off the ground too....
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check out the layout of my box...it is the perfect layout...compressor in the front with space to open doors and also storage for tools,media,tarps...whatever. blast pot sits up against one side with pallet of media on the other side...tight fit but it works. then a LIFT GATE...to help you load and unload on site....small foot print is the key on alot of the jobs i have been on...also..the farrow system is neat and probably works but i would becareful sticking myself in something that has to be strapped down to the truck and not movable...you can buy the 400 cfm compressor and make your whip longer but i still dont see it being that wise of an investment especially because your stuck buying there media.
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That system is all hot water and hype ....
Go ahead put it in there... No worries mate..
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That system is all hot water and hype ....
Go ahead put it in there... No worries mate..

Not really a helpful post mate.
I use a slurry blast system at work on some projects (similar to the farrow sytem) and it does have it's applications and I work for a multi million dollar engineering firm .
It may not be conventional blasting but if the guy has found a place in the market for it then good on him.
He only wants to know about the advantages of different peoples set ups not have someone post dribble.
Try to stay on topic we all try to help one another on here.

One thing I would like to know is how many M sq can the system do in an hour I can get above 20 sq M in an hour with conventional equipment.

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Not really a helpful post mate.
I use a slurry blast system at work on some projects (similar to the farrow sytem) and it does have it's applications and I work for a multi million dollar engineering firm .
It may not be conventional blasting but if the guy has found a place in the market for it then good on him.
He only wants to know about the advantages of different peoples set ups not have someone post dribble.
Try to stay on topic we all try to help one another on here.

One thing I would like to know is how many M sq can the system do in an hour I can get above 20 sq M in an hour with conventional equipment.
Ausisoda, I wasn't offended by BigdaddyBlaster post... I actually it found entertaining, because that's ecactly what local dry media blasters say about my system when we go up against each other bidding a job.... that's when I say have both of us test blast the project to make sure quotes going to be accurate.... I'm getting a lot of work and I have very happy clients.

Here's a little News video that was done about us a few months back: http://www.atlanticgreenpro.com/NBC10Big.mov

Yep, Hot water and hype!

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Todd, what size is the box on that truck and what model is it? Thats a nice outfit. I'm leaning toward an enclosed trailer about 20' that would give me plenty of room for media, compressor, pot and whatever else I need.
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It's about a 16 ft box if I remember right and is a freightliner M2...what you typically see around here as an ambulance...

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