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Old 05-04-2015, 09:27 PM   #41
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phewww. I've just never seen it that complete and not curling at the edges a bit
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:25 PM   #42
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A little more today.

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How much time do u have in that fireplace? Looks great
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LOTS of hours. 6 weeks maybe, but there was almost as much stonework below tieing in to the existing stonework.
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This sits on the edge of an elevated patio. It's all veneered below.
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On Facebook Bobby Watt is ripping me a new azzhole on my stone bonding. He is technically correct.......and a bit of a perfectionist.
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Still looks great and is not going to fall apart.
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What doesnt he "technically" like about it?
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I see one instance of 5 stones to a joint, i see a box and i also think i see an edge bedded stone. There's a stone warehouse around the corner from me. Not super old but it's 130 years old anyway. It has zipper joints and stacked joints everywhere, just a warehouse right, throw it up and start filling it with junk. 130 years later and It's in fine shape
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Search "Snecked Stonemasonry" by Bobby Watt. I found it online but it's a pdf and I don't know how to copy on my phone.
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In reality Im matching existing. 2 against 2, 3 against 1. End grain flipped 90*.
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Snecks...I love 'em. Some don't.

Looked up his article. I don't personally agree with it but obviously have less experience and panache behind my name.

Snecks to me are only the really little stone. say 2" or shorter beds and less than 8" long. Basically the face is smaller than a brick.

The reality that I find in most of the masonry work that I see (And most was built by scotch immigrants from the 1820's -90's) is that all the stones are "levellers" (what I would call coursers). You'll often find a course of jumpers, Or a course of 8" that jumps some 3-4" stone but has a 12" jumper beside it? so what's the jumper. And that 12" may course 3 or 4 stones long. it all depends on the beds that are prevalent in the area. And often enough the 1.5-2" courses can course right along and not just be used as transition pieces.

The "rules" as I know them.

1. No more than 3 stones to a head joint except for a cross corner (he calls them blocked joints) and they should be kept to a minimum (when the quarry is only pulling out 2 or 3 coursing heights what else can you do unless you want to work the stone to death?)
2. 4" lap minimum
3. No unit taller than it is long
4. Courses are no longer than 8' (rules are meant to be broken)
5. All stones to be laid natural bed except voussoirs and entabulatures or any other projection
6. No boxes. A box is when there are 2 stones of equal length directly on top of each other with no lap. That one is huge for me.

Maybe a couple others that I can't think of right now
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You lost me on no unit taller then it is long.


Its my signature look, right on the corners for the world to see.

Someday aliens will study my crap and re right those rules, all corners need to be 1.5x as tall as they are long.

Ill be trendy someday.
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Those rules are for what I call Scotch bond and Bobby calls either Celtic bond or snecked work. Proper English masonry terminology would be something similar to squared (or roughly squared) randomly coursed rubble. Lots of different bonds in masonry, this is just for scotch bond
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I had never heard this sneck term before, but essentially isnt it the same as ordering square and recs plus a mix of ledge and ashlar?

2 against one. Follow that and it will end up the way its supposed to be eh?
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I had never heard this sneck term before, but essentially isnt it the same as ordering square and recs plus a mix of ledge and ashlar?

2 against one. Follow that and it will end up the way its supposed to be eh?
Pretty much, 2 against 1 is it. Like I say, sneck to me is only a tiny little stone, usually 1" thick or so, but could be as much as 2" and generally short, just enough to get you a few inches away and give the stone above some lap
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What about 3 against 2?



Hard to argue with 1 day fireplaces...
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I'm thinking the veneer should be done by Tue. Then set the hips and cap when they come in. I need to get out of here!
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