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Old 02-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #1
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I thought some might be interested in this. Plywood template at top is the second floor fireplace layout. I have a bunch of these to build at this job, so I'll keep it updated.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:43 PM   #2
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It took me a while to see that you guys were on scaffold. i had no idea what I was looking at hahahaha.

When you say you have a bunch to build, how many fireplaces total?
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Sunny and shirt sleeves.
Can't wait!

Looks like a lot of fill ahead.

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It took me a while to see that you guys were on scaffold. i had no idea what I was looking at hahahaha.

When you say you have a bunch to build, how many fireplaces total?
8 fireplaces, in seven chimneys. This one is the tallest at about 50' from the basement floor. There are 6 at 60" one at 54" and one 48" box. All Rumford.
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Wow, I guess some people still have money. Sounds like you have some work to go. What will the facing be?
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It looks like you've used a combination of firebrick and.... sections of flue tile (?) to create the smoke chamber. Is that right?
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Correct, I got the idea after using the Superior Clay smoke chamber which is just cut down flue liners. The first few I did just like that, but there's a lot of waste chopping up flue liners for every panel. Split firebrick are almost the exact thickness, which works for the infill, and then I back it up with 4" of solid masonry.
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Correct, I got the idea after using the Superior Clay smoke chamber which is just cut down flue liners. The first few I did just like that, but there's a lot of waste chopping up flue liners for every panel. Split firebrick are almost the exact thickness, which works for the infill, and then I back it up with 4" of solid masonry.
I was checking that out as well. Never liked the split fire brick, and now to combine them with cut flue liners? I am going to have to mull that one over a while to decide if it meets safety margin. I like the 4" solid backup. I shoot for 8" when ever possible.

It also looks like the second fireplace is positioned directly above the first one. Is that correct or just the picture angle?
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This is just my opinion, of course. I've built smoke chambers every possible way. I always disliked the corbeled brick, parged smooth approach. One, I don't like the actual work, and two, a bunch of little triangular parge sections hanging upside down, never seemed that durable to me.

I think this way gives the smoothest result with the fewest joints to catch creosote. It's basically just a bell-shaped flue liner. With 1/16 joints and heat stop 50, I have no doubt you could pick up the whole assembly and it would act like one piece.
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I am going to have to mull that one over a while to decide if it meets safety margin.
dakzaag, it sounds like you have concerns about this approach (?).
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More from this job. These pics are about a week old. We start the main floor fireplaces this week, following behind the framers.


Hard to see, but there are four bases in a row, with one to the right and another to the left.



This is the same fireplace as the first photo. It's the only one in the basement level.



P.S. I know I am not much of a photographer. I try to make it up with my masonry.
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Interesting colour of mortar. Typical masonry type N/S mix or is there a secrect sauce in there?
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It's just type S. Perhaps your sand is a different color, our's is red/gold.
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dakzaag, it sounds like you have concerns about this approach (?).
Artisanstone addressed the concerns with the 1/8" joints and 4" backup, so not really. Just observing something new to me.

Still trying to determine if the boxes are in fact on top of each other.

Work looks neat and tight.
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It's just type S. Perhaps your sand is a different color, our's is red/gold.
Sand i use is often red more often gold/brown sugar colour. When the joints are fresh they're dark grey, when cured a lighter grey. Your joints looks beige
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Artisanstone addressed the concerns with the 1/8" joints and 4" backup, so not really. Just observing something new to me.

Still trying to determine if the boxes are in fact on top of each other.

Work looks neat and tight.
Fireboxes are directly on top of each other. 60" wide x 54" tall Rumford boxes.
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Sand i use is often red more often gold/brown sugar colour. When the joints are fresh they're dark grey, when cured a lighter grey. Your joints looks beige
It may be partially the camera and partially that this particular brand of cement is lighter in color than others. Mix is slightly richer than 3:1
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Its going to be a nice and toasty home when its done there.

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