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Old 02-25-2013, 07:16 PM   #1
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Mama had me working on the house this last week, first project was to get rid of our sweet 1970's kitchen and update it a bit. Tiled the floor, put in concrete counter tops and I am currently tiling the backsplash.

All I lack is the registers and putting the trim back on.

It was really nice having someone to actually take pictures, I need to remember to do that more often.

I used Z-counterform snap off forms and their undermount sink form, really they were a breeze to use, the corners mitered great and they were super strong to screed on, they snapped right off the next day with little issue and left fantastic sharp edges all around.

I will be using that system again, now that I learned a few things about installation I intend to advertise for them.



















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You're doing a great job.....looks great!
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You're doing a great job.....looks great!
The whole project reminded me of why I dislike inside work, the mess is out of control.
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what kind of forms are using on the counter tops?
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what kind of forms are using on the counter tops?
He said Z-counterform snap off forms.
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The whole project reminded me of why I dislike inside work, the mess is out of control.
oh yeah, but just think....'Happy Wife ....Happy Life!'.....worth the mess!
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He said Z-counterform snap off forms.
I know he said Z counterform, but I've never heard of Z counterform. So I was asking him what Z counterforms were.
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I know he said Z counterform, but I've never heard of Z counterform. So I was asking him what Z counterforms were.
These ones, they are PVC and the front and bottom snap right off the next day.

http://concretecountertopsolutions.c...edge-profiles/

I used the single fancy.
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Nice work!! I'm going to have to check those out, looks like a real time saver. Corners turned out real good!
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Very nice,

What are you sealing the 'crete with?

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These ones, they are PVC and the front and bottom snap right off the next day.

http://concretecountertopsolutions.c...edge-profiles/

I used the single fancy.
Thank you for the information. The reason I was asking, was I'd never seen these before. Really interesting.

And I think your kitchen's turning out real well!
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Nice work!! I'm going to have to check those out, looks like a real time saver. Corners turned out real good!
They were really slick, with a fine tooth saw blade they miter perfect, I spent more time just doing the holes and form for the sink than I did putting the whole rest of the forms in, including chipping back the laminate, you can fly with them.
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Very nice,

What are you sealing the 'crete with?

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I used Silacryl available from the same company, it was OK, but I think in the future I will experiment with just waxing, I feel like it won't wear the greatest in high use areas.

Waxing is a pain, but at least it can be layered up and redone as needed.
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Did you rip up the old floor and thinset your CB down? What about the sink-cut out - how'd you form it? Did you place your mud over the partially torn off formica substrate? reinforcement? what mix you use?
gonna polish?

so many questions,...so little time I likey, likey
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I love the form system! Someone really thought that out well.

Nice job on your kitchen too!
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Did you rip up the old floor and thinset your CB down? What about the sink-cut out - how'd you form it? Did you place your mud over the partially torn off formica substrate? reinforcement? what mix you use?
gonna polish?

so many questions,...so little time I likey, likey
Well, I cheated a little since its my own house, that laminate flooring refused to come up, it wasn't linolieum, it was pretty much was was on the counter tops, solid stuff.

I scraped up what I could and used PL under my Durock instead of thinset, I put about 50 screws in each sheet.

I just screeded my tile bed like concrete to make up the small dips and dives.

For the counters I just chipped off the edges, same story, that stuff was pulling up chunks of plywood with it so I left it right in the middle the way it was unless it was loose, I figured it would prevent water from weeping through.

Sink cut out was 1/4 Durock over the old hole, then I dropped in the new undermount, crawled underneath and make frame for it from regular 2x4's notched to fit perfect and screwed right up through the 3/4 ply, then those nifty faucet knockouts set to height. The sink form had a peel back sticky tape and honestly it was a pain right in the balls to get perfect, it was pretty hard to measure and notch it out then set it to height while sticking it, I didn't have any help for that part though.

I used bagged 5000 lb mix from Lowes (block yard was closed) and I added 2.5 lbs of type 1 portland per bag. To that I added .5 lbs of buff and one coffee scooper of red, I mixed them up in two bag batches in large tubs with the mixing drill, my mixer is at a jobsite and I didn't feel like driving to get it, probably for the best, the drill worked great, only 13 bags for the whole thing.

I did learn that I should be using water reducer with it, my first two I put in at 2pm and shined up at 9:30 pm, the bigger one I put in around 3pm but my helper put in too much water and I woke up at 1:30 in the morning to shine up.

That mix was fantastic though, super creamy and when I was burning it with the steel and old spit shine it didn't tear once.

I used regular duty wire mesh cut back to edge of the plywood, and put some corner reinforcement by the sink, left it right near the bottom as I filled them, no ghosting.

I'm not going to polish it since they are super smooth already, I don't like the exposed aggregate look, I wanted it to look like concrete, my biggest concern was making sure there was no chatter marks and spit shining it gave me some really neat color variations all over it.

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I love the form system! Someone really thought that out well.

Nice job on your kitchen too!
Best part, he shipped it same day I ordered, I got half my order the next morning and the rest the following day.
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That floor sure looks like old school linoleum...hard as a rock and probably asbestos backed - I've seen it many times in the 70's kitchens so it's probably better that you left it. I probably would have still full spread thinset under the cb in fear of deflection, but you might get lucky with the adhesive and plentiful screws.

Helluva job your doing there - hopefully the wifey is footing the take out bill for all that hard work you doing

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