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Old 09-05-2012, 10:50 PM   #1
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Looking to install a urinel in my master bath ,anyone use the cartridge type ? Pros n cons . I like the idea of not flushing in the middle of the nite and not having to hit the bullseye Does'nt seem to be but a few manufactures for residentual type, or should i go with the water. All walls are open , new construction .
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:01 PM   #2
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They do work...but if you have the option install a conventional one...


just don't flush until the morning....

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They are great if you like the smell of urine.
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don't let the little ones eat the rice cakes.
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Have not heard that one. Just "Don't eat the big white mint!"
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Even though I know next to nothing about plumbing, I know enough to say without a doubt, don't get a waterless urinal.
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All the stadiums have waterless and they stink, i guess from lack of maintanence.

I think the waterless urianals can really build up some salt on the inside of the pipe from not being flushed with water.

Just go with a low water consumtion model with a manual flush valve
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dont do it.
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A waterless urinal works (supposedly) by having a layer of oil float on top of the urine. Urine (water) being heavier than oil, will descend through the oil, allowing the oil to seal the urine and associated smells.

From everything I've read, they don't work well.

The salt build up in the pipes will be much more rapid of course but this isn't the smell issue. Apparently there is enough urine that does not penetrate the oil and get sealed that that aroma lingers.
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Looking to install a urinel in my master bath ,anyone use the cartridge type ? Pros n cons . I like the idea of not flushing in the middle of the nite and not having to hit the bullseye Does'nt seem to be but a few manufactures for residentual type, or should i go with the water. All walls are open , new construction .
Why bother with all that none sense... Just use the old school system.
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Sounds pretty gross to me but then I like urinals about as much as I
like seeing toilet seats up but at least the toilet has water in it!

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Ottawa university used them in a few bathroom renos, at first they reeked or urine then they replaced all the cartridges with a different brand and the smell was greatly reduced. With the newer ones you could see the dark oil bubble as you took a whizz.

The rest stops along the 401 now have waterless urinals and they have a bit of a odour but they get cleaned pretty regularly.

The trouble is all the urine that splashes on the walls of the urinal just sits there and evaporates unless you clean it off...just get one that uses water.

You must be single, because no way the average woman would let you put a urinal in the master bath.
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My mstr bath is a little over 300 sq ft and the urinal will be in its own room within the mstr bath with water closet and ped sink . Its only going to be used by myself so im not worried about a mess just wanted feed back from plumbers who installed them or if anyone here has one . Its not about water conservation , i just dont like the commercial look of a flushometer .
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I think you need to use special cleaners for a waterless as well. atleast i know they sell them..
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Its not about water conservation , i just dont like the commercial look of a flushometer .

They have some nice looking ones out now.

I just installed these. Its a kohler



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The entire cosomopoliton hotel in vegas utilizes them as well.
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I think you need to use special cleaners for a waterless as well. atleast i know they sell them..
by special cleaners do you mean the wife? the state installed these in one of their office buildings to save water and tore them out a year later and replaced them with new 1/2 gallon per flush units. The smell of urine was objectionable to some.
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Thanks gentlemen for the feedback , im going with the urinels that use water if i can find something decent . I just dont like the looks of some of the flushometers .I looked at the Toto , not bad .
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Just get a nice ada toilet and sit down to pee. I'm 6'-3". Every urinal I've ever pissed in has has bounce back with the exception of one style. That is the one that goes all the way to the floor. If you have to have a urinal, that's what I would get. Definitely water flush.

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