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Old 02-28-2015, 07:53 PM   #1
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Hey guys. Been doing carpentry for over 10 years, but never had to install a new sump pump! . Told the customer I would take care of it, fairly straight forward. My question is has anyone ever tied the discharge into existing drains. There's a nice 2 inch sink drain that I could tie into, and would make life easy. I know that's probably a code violation , but would be a lot easier based on the situation. Its septic, in a condo association. Also is there a minimum length of straight discharge out of the pump before you can turn a 90?
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Old 02-28-2015, 08:17 PM   #2
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You're right, it's a violation. Stop right there.

No minimum straight discharge that I'm aware of.

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What he said, its illegal here also...
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you're right, it's a violation. Stop right there.

No minimum straight discharge that i'm aware of.
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fairly straight forward
Turns out it's not.

The sump may refill at between 1 and 20 GPM and you don't want short-cycling.
Pipe flow resistance for straight pipe or elbows strongly depends on the flow rate and pipe material, this is a very messy calculation.

Will using a flexible hose make it easier?



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I don't think that's legal anywhere. Plus you have to "think like water" sometimes.

The gravity fed drain you were thinking of using relies on gravity for a natural draining function. Blasting pump fed pressure into that scenario would not be a pretty picture.

Picture sump pump water squirting out of the drains. Not to mention blowing trap seals, etc.
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I don't think that's legal anywhere.
Most sumps in the city of Chicago are piped into the sanitary sewer, the city has combined storm and sanitary, it all goes to Stickney.
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Most sumps in the city of Chicago are piped into the sanitary sewer, the city has combined storm and sanitary, it all goes to Stickney.
I know that used to be OK and they can't make everyone in those old buildings change.

The OP is going into septic and it's a new install.
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Aside being illegal, it's never a good idea to discharge to a septic.

Chicago must pay dearly treating all that storm water...residents that is.
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I know that used to be OK and they can't make everyone in those old buildings change.
It's still OK, where else are they going to put all that water? It's not like these houses have yards to discharge the sump to.
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Can't do it here in Naperville. Against code. Doesn't stop a lot of people though.
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Chicago must pay dearly treating all that storm water...residents that is.
The MWRD is mostly funded by fines levied against businesses illegally disposing chemicals and other unwanted things into the sewers.
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well looks like ill be spending tomo in the 3ft crawl space, thank you for all the reply's! don't like the flex...

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