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Old 05-19-2020, 05:37 AM   #1
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Hi everyone, the 2 screws are broken that hold the handle plate on, whats the best way to overcome this problem
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Old 05-19-2020, 05:48 AM   #2
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This is the pic, finally
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Anything left to grab? Use pliers or vice grips. Penetrating oil if the screws are rusty.

If they're broken off flush, drill them out with a bit smaller than the thread size of the screw.

You could also caulk the plate in place, but that's a last resort.

Looking at your pic, oil, then drill. And jiggle the rest of the screw behind where it broke off.

Get new stainless steel trim plate screws (moen-standyne) from the hardware store.

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Nothing to grab, I think the screws r to small to try n drill out
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Nothing to grab, I think the screws r to small to try n drill out
You can drill them. 1/16" bit. Gently.

You "might" even be able to oil, then screw the rest of it through the hole until it drops out.

Remember that the screws are long, so there's some to work with behind the break-off point.
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Thank you so much will let u know how I get on
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Thank you so much will let u know how I get on
Sure thing. Another tactic would be to grab the back of the screw with needle nose vice grips, then wiggle it until loose, etc. (Stuff a rag in the wall first, so you don't drop them down in the cavity, and/or tape a long string to them.)
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Find some long stainless steel screws that are a little bigger than what is there and drill them out with a small bit then drill again with the correct bit for the tap and tap them out and there you go.

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Had to end up opening the wall behind and installed a complete new set up
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plumber to day said they sell a repair kit for those positemps. Cut the tabs off, the plate clamps below the valve and extends up to the spot where the tabs were. coms with new screws.

Yours looked old so replacement was in order, hope you used something besides a positemp.
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plumber to day said they sell a repair kit for those positemps. Cut the tabs off, the plate clamps below the valve and extends up to the spot where the tabs were. coms with new screws.

Yours looked old so replacement was in order, hope you used something besides a positemp.
That was pre-Positemp.
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That was pre-Positemp.
what ever it was called used the same cartridge and had the same clip at the top, 1224?
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what ever it was called used the same cartridge and had the same clip at the top, 1224?
I always forget which number is which.
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Get a screw extraction set, they cost a few dollars in any box store or Amazon.com for $11 here is the link you get that screw right out.
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I tried those a few years ago with poor results, screw is stainless and the drill skipped right off into the brass. So I drilled the hole bigger and used a speed nut, which worked but not great.
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I have those screw extractors in the truck for years. Maybe grabbed it once. Not impressed, it's a last resort. I would rather grab wat I could with a vise grip.
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Those extractors work well if you have a drill press to nail the hole pretty much dead center. I used them fairly regularly in a past life in a machine shop.

But freehand with a portable drill, not so much.

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