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hxman 04-03-2019 07:27 AM

Relocation Sink P Trap
 
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Hello,

I have attached a pic from a 10 year old town house and the 2nd floor bathroom. My question, can I go directly into the pipe (as indicated by the red arrow), instead of through the wall. Why, because I would like to install a cabinet with drawers, however in the current configuration, the drawers would touch the current pipe, forcing me to cut the drawer to fit.

Thanks

hxman 04-03-2019 07:55 AM

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Kind of like this........

MarkJames 04-03-2019 08:08 AM

You would still need it vented, so not really. And it would be good to open the wall and get the big picture, anyway.

Do yourself a big favor...either get something with drawers on the left side instead, or forget about them.

hxman 04-03-2019 08:12 AM

It would still be vented as the pipe for the vent is behind the wall...... I am just changing the entrance point.

SmallTownGuy 04-03-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hxman (Post 7516289)
It would still be vented as the pipe for the vent is behind the wall...... I am just changing the entrance point.

yup. You be good to go.

MarkJames 04-03-2019 08:14 AM

Wouldn't all that still obstruct any drawers?

hxman 04-03-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkJames (Post 7516295)
Wouldn't all that still obstruct any drawers?

No, it's a wall mounted cabinet..... Not my choice, but that's what was chosen.....

MarkJames 04-03-2019 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hxman (Post 7516297)
No, it's a wall mounted cabinet..... Not my choice, but that's what was chosen.....

Will the trap be inside the cabinet entirely, and the cabinet against the side wall? If so, sounds like it will work with the drain route as it is. (cut off, install cab, reconnect drain...) Drawer is a bit higher, right?

hxman 04-03-2019 08:32 AM

It's an Ikea:

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/S89879581/

Yes, the trap will be inside, but there is only a few inches behind the drawers. And if I move it from it's current location, I will not need to cut through the cabinet.

MarkJames 04-03-2019 08:44 AM

Good luck with that one! :no:

SmallTownGuy 04-03-2019 08:45 AM

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This ought to prove interesting...:whistling

MarkJames 04-03-2019 08:50 AM


Tom M 04-03-2019 07:56 PM

Open the wall. It Could be different and tie in higher than it seems for venting down stairs.

Irishslave 04-04-2019 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmallTownGuy (Post 7516309)
This ought to prove interesting...:whistling

I had one similar to that from Ikea. Damnedist thing I ever installed. Tailpiece that came with it went horizontal to accomodate drawers.

Top was heavy as hell and the unit hung on the wall with no legs.

I can just imagine how heavy it was with the drawers loaded and the bowl full of water. I used 1/4 x 4" lags to mount it. I hope that was good enough

MarkJames 04-04-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishslave (Post 7516725)
I had one similar to that from Ikea. Damnedist thing I ever installed. Tailpiece that came with it went horizontal to accomodate drawers.

Top was heavy as hell and the unit hung on the wall with no legs.

I can just imagine how heavy it was with the drawers loaded and the bowl full of water. I used 1/4 x 4" lags to mount it. I hope that was good enough

Lag bolts, or some Ikea-proprietary system version of them that comes in a heavy parts bag?

They seam to reverse-engineer basic assembly and installation methods.

MarkJames 04-04-2019 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishslave (Post 7516725)
I had one similar to that from Ikea. Damnedist thing I ever installed. Tailpiece that came with it went horizontal to accomodate drawers.

Top was heavy as hell and the unit hung on the wall with no legs.

I can just imagine how heavy it was with the drawers loaded and the bowl full of water. I used 1/4 x 4" lags to mount it. I hope that was good enough

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/assembly_...8095-5_pub.pdf

hxman 04-04-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishslave (Post 7516725)
I had one similar to that from Ikea. Damnedist thing I ever installed. Tailpiece that came with it went horizontal to accomodate drawers.

Top was heavy as hell and the unit hung on the wall with no legs.

I can just imagine how heavy it was with the drawers loaded and the bowl full of water. I used 1/4 x 4" lags to mount it. I hope that was good enough

Ya, I had to reinforce behind the sink into the studs to ensure there was enough to hold the thing up properly.

MarkJames 04-04-2019 08:02 AM

That Ikea wall unit isn't safe enough for my comfort level. A lot of weight hanging on with Ikea "jointery".

hxman 04-04-2019 08:59 AM

I agree, not my 1st choice as well..... ;)

SmallTownGuy 04-04-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishslave (Post 7516725)
I had one similar to that from Ikea. Damnedist thing I ever installed. Tailpiece that came with it went horizontal to accomodate drawers.

Top was heavy as hell and the unit hung on the wall with no legs.

I can just imagine how heavy it was with the drawers loaded and the bowl full of water. I used 1/4 x 4" lags to mount it. I hope that was good enough

So, looks like a bathtub waste then.

Irishslave 04-04-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmallTownGuy (Post 7516837)
So, looks like a bathtub waste then.

YES. I dont like it. Now the lighted mirror was pretty cool

Big Johnson 04-04-2019 08:23 PM

Iíve installed quite a few of the ikea vanities. Not worried one bit.

CPMKW 04-05-2019 09:40 AM

I've done a bunch. Including one at my house. Look good and work well.

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superseal 04-05-2019 04:11 PM

Cut the floor and wall and relocate...easy enough it looks like ABS. Vents should take off above trap weir, something your modified picture does not address. You could also AAV in the cabinet in access box in the wall. Another vote to open it up to see exactly what you're dealing with.

Anti-wingnut 04-06-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hxman (Post 7516289)
It would still be vented as the pipe for the vent is behind the wall...... I am just changing the entrance point.

No, it would be a "S" trap. The trap arm needs to hit the vent at an elevation above the trap weir.

https://www.ridgidforum.com/filedata/fetch?id=627224
You could use an AAV on the trap arm, or an island vent loop, hire a plumber or ask this question at DIYChatroom as this is a forum for professionals and you give every indication of being a DIY'er. Why don't you post some helpful info on the electrical forum here, since you claim to be a sparky.


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