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Old 05-08-2011, 08:24 PM   #1
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Easy, Toilet Replacement


Ever notice how the other trades always look so easy? Yesterdays project was to replace the main floor toilet. I bought a toilet a couple of weeks ago. My new toilet had a rough in of 12 inches. The existing toilet is 10 inches. No problem. Today, I went off to the store, get a 10" rough in toilet. The brass bolts had bad threads, & I used vise grips to break the old bolts. I put the new bolts in. My house was built in 1890, the toilet flange is lead and there are no holes for the bolts. The wood around the hole is not going to hold a lag thread. The only way I can figure to hold the toilet to the floor is to use redi-bolt, cut long enough to go through the floor and a piece of wood or uni-strut across the bottom of the floor joists. I will need to do this on both sides of the toilet. I do not have any 1/4 redi-bolt and though I may have 5/16 redi-bolt, I do not have any 5/16 brass nuts. Although that should not be a problem, as I do not expect to ever replace the toilet again. I will be dead before the toilet needs to come up again.

Do you real plumbers have any other suggestions?
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Replace the floor.

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Replace the floor.
Ah, so that's how plumbers make it look so easy. :wise nod:
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Ah, so that's how plumbers make it look so easy. :wise nod:

It is impossible to convey sarcasm here.
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Au contraire, you do it quite well.
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There is a toilet repair flange that may work. It's just a flat flange with several holes to secure it to the floor. If you can't this repair flange to work, you may have to repair the floor or possibly even forego the flange bolts.

I regard the the flange bolts as secondary to the toilet sitting flat and secure on the floor.

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It's not that it's easy for us, it's just that we are fully equipped. To give you an example of the parts I carry I'll run through some numbers. On my truck, just for toilets, I carry about $500 worth of different flappers, $500 worth of flush valve parts including seals, about 300 worth of handles, ballcocks out the wazoo, hundreds of dollars in tank to bowl parts dating back to the first commercially available toilets, and a 300 pound bin of every other miscellaneous parts known to man. So this riht there allows me to fix and repair any toilet I come accross. For fastening the toilet down I must have hundreds of dollars worth of different flanges I stock. They make flange parts you have never seen or heard of before.

Anyhow, the real value is having this available on the truck at all times so when I get a call I walk in a fix it in minutes. This gives the impression it's easy.....and it is rather easy I guess, but in you shoes it's different because you have no inventory so you have to start from zero.

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Anyhow, the real value is having this available on the truck at all times so when I get a call I walk in a fix it in minutes.
You know Mike... I'm going to tell you something that's been said to me far too many times.

You're irritating because you're right so often.

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You know Mike... I'm going to tell you something that's been said to me far too many times.

You're irritating because you're right so often.

I find him irritating because he doesn't look and talk like his avatar photo....
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Shove one of these in there, twist it until its tight and screw it down.
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Shove one of these in there, twist it until its tight and screw it down.
I would not use one of those on a lead closet bend.
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I would not use one of those on a lead closet bend.
Why?
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So everybody finds me irritating, well that's nice. Maybe I'll just go hang out on the Oprah Winfrey forum.

BTW: The plastic expansion closet flange is a bad idea. That's doesn't do a very good job of holding a toilet down. Just because they make something doesn't mean we should use it.

Drive 2 hangar bolts in the floor and bolt the SOB down. Chuck it in a cordless drill and drive them home. Easy as pie.

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Why?
Because fixing cracked sheet lead in place is a pain in the ass.
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I have used them a few times over the past 15+ years including at my own house and a few of my older rentals where the flange had no slot for the bolts. Never had a problem and Id do it again.
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I have used them a few times over the past 15+ years including at my own house and a few of my older rentals where the flange had no slot for the bolts. Never had a problem and Id do it again.
I'm happy for you.
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I have used them a few times over the past 15+ years including at my own house and a few of my older rentals where the flange had no slot for the bolts. Never had a problem and Id do it again.
Sweet, products like this keep us plumbers busy. Please keep installing these.
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It's not that it's easy for us, it's just that we are fully equipped. To give you an example of the parts I carry I'll run through some numbers. On my truck, just for toilets, I carry about $500 worth of different flappers, $500 worth of flush valve parts including seals, about 300 worth of handles, ballcocks out the wazoo, hundreds of dollars in tank to bowl parts dating back to the first commercially available toilets, and a 300 pound bin of every other miscellaneous parts known to man. So this riht there allows me to fix and repair any toilet I come accross. For fastening the toilet down I must have hundreds of dollars worth of different flanges I stock. They make flange parts you have never seen or heard of before.

Anyhow, the real value is having this available on the truck at all times so when I get a call I walk in a fix it in minutes. This gives the impression it's easy.....and it is rather easy I guess, but in you shoes it's different because you have no inventory so you have to start from zero.

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Sure, I have her really gutted right now and I worked on it all day. I decided to put all my tools on the drivers side, passenger side will have toilet and sink repair parts etc, and the inside of the cube will be all parts and pipe etc.

I had to do a service call today and I was bare bones, made me pretty nervous but I got done thankfully.

If I have it too gutted out I could really screw myself but so far so good.

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It's not that it's easy for us, it's just that we are fully equipped.

Anyhow, the real value is having this available on the truck at all times so when I get a call I walk in a fix it in minutes. This gives the impression it's easy.....and it is rather easy I guess, but in you shoes it's different because you have no inventory so you have to start from zero.

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