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Old 06-09-2016, 02:39 PM   #1
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Pouring Concrete Over Electric Lines For Pool Heater?


Gotta pour a small stamped concrete patio. Never stamped concrete before, this is a new side income for my landscaping company I'm adding
By doing small jobs for existing customers.

My question is can I pour over a electrical line?
It's buried about 3 in, runs down to the pool, it sends
Power to the pool heater.

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Old 06-09-2016, 05:14 PM   #2
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Sounds like an illegal installation...what happens when some eventually jacks out that concrete and gets electrocuted?

I would inform your customer of the faulty installation and let them know it has to be corrected before you cover it up.

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That's exactly the answer I needed. Thanks.
So I would not run conduit myself and bury it deeper?
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I would always run the wire in conduit so it could be replaced if ever needed and at a proper depth.
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Call your code officer and find out how deep the line needs to be.....always run it through conduit that is routed so lines can easily be replaced.

If you've never stamped before I sure hope you are familiar with proper finishing technique before jumping right into it, you can make a real mess of it if you don't know what you are doing.
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this is a new side income for my landscaping company

Thanks

I love these grass cutters moving into anything else they can make money on regardless if they know what they are doing or not.

Same with painters, they move into so many other remodeling projects besides paint you think they are complete home remodelers with professional carpenters, tile setters, etc. on the payroll.

Stick to cutting grass and pulling weeds, your customers will be safer. (not really your weedwackers cause more broken glass and damage to property and personal injury than anything else known to mankind
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Wow. Talk about the 10-foot pole rule>>>>.
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You love these grass cutters?
Stick to cutting grass?

I do not cut grass!

3 insults, I'm going to report you for Harassment, people that are out working and and making money/making customers happy would never think about insulting others for asking for help, I question your business and workmanship.

People join this site for 2 reasons, to Help people and ask for help.

And the reply before that, I can finish concrete.

P.S. For the Grass cutters, and painters don't let this guy discourage you from branching out and building a business, everyone starts somewhere.

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You love these grass cutters?
Stick to cutting grass?

I do not cut grass!

3 insults, I'm going to report you for Harassment, people that are out working and and making money/making customers happy would never think about insulting others for asking for help, I question your business and workmanship.

People join this site for 2 reasons, to Help people and ask for help.

And the reply before that, I can finish concrete.

P.S. For the Grass cutters, and painters don't let this guy discourage you from branching out and building a business, everyone starts somewhere.

Picture of just a tiny project of what I do.
I joined this site to.........oh nevermind!
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Who was he harassing?

He is entitled to his opinion just the same as you are.

Its the internet your not always going to get the answer you want, or even a nice answer for that matter.
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Yes it's the Internet, these sites are built to help people and ask for help, talk about like situations. Thank you for your opinion.
I was taught to keep my mouth shut if I don't have anything nice to say, but as you says, "it's the Internet" where are the tough guys come out and say what they want, this tool would never insult or disrespect anyone in person. Hides behind his smartphone tells it like it is puts people down. Hahahaha.

Is there any normal people on this forum?

Any traveling men, brethens?
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The best way to get a warm welcome here isn't to start by insulting people.

Lots of normal hard working men and women on this forum.
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The best way to get a warm welcome here isn't to start by insulting people.

Lots of normal hard working men and women on this forum.
I wasnt insulting people? I think you need to go and read the convo.

Lol.
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It's amazing that people can be contractors and thin skinned at the same time...
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My question is can I pour over a electrical line?

Thanks
No malice intended with my comment although many will take it that way.

But I see it all the time, lawn service companies branching out doing home improvement work without the proper license, insurances and credentials. No I have absolutely no problem expanding a business, just start building relationships with other trade professionals you can bring in to handle what you cannot handle.
The very nature of your question on a forum of strangers tells me you're clueless as to who to contact locally for your electrical problem. To me that's dangerous coming on a forum and looking for advice that you may or may not act upon when the wrong direction taken could kill somebody.
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You love these grass cutters?
Stick to cutting grass?

I do not cut grass!

3 insults, I'm going to report you for Harassment, people that are out working and and making money/making customers happy would never think about insulting others for asking for help, I question your business and workmanship.

People join this site for 2 reasons, to Help people and ask for help.

And the reply before that, I can finish concrete.

P.S. For the Grass cutters, and painters don't let this guy discourage you from branching out and building a business, everyone starts somewhere.

Picture of just a tiny project of what I do.
Sensitive much?

You can't come in with one post and ask obvious questions about a trade you aren't even listed with and expect not to catch some flak about it.

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I should have re worded my question, I see how it looks very obvious, and non common sense like. This is my second post, first was to introduce myself.

And I'm not sensitive, I never thought I'd get a response like that. The others were great responses, I think they understood what I was saying. I worked for a huge concrete company 15years ago building all new homes, I was a laborer at the time, but they let me finish also, I learned a lot, I'm rusty. I do small little walk pads and repair work. But I have a customer that wanted me to try and expand and match his excisting stamped patio, I told him I will do it, it does not take a rocket scientist to do it, I'm farmilier with the process, just never stamped. I'm going to rent the stamps. 2 things I will not mess with, plumbing, and electric, I don't care how easy everyone tells me it is, it's not my trade and I have no business touching either.
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I believe the rules are;

12" depth with Rigid EMT and THWN wire
18 " depth in PVC conduit and THWN wire
24" with UF direct burial wire

I could be wrong, just ask my wife.
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I believe the rules are;

12" depth with Rigid EMT and THWN wire
18 " depth in PVC conduit and THWN wire
24" with UF direct burial wire

I could be wrong, just ask my wife.
Thanks!
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Thanks!
Don't worry Damicos, some guys here just love jumping on newbies...makes them feel like they got a big stick

Welcome to the forum! and nice job on that wall...

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