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Old 10-13-2019, 06:53 AM   #1
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We did a 30' X 13' patio this week and the owners wanted saw cuts.

So, I rented a saw and one of my guys said he knew how to put saw cuts, so I let him do it and he totally messed it up. The homeowners are mad and want the cuts fixed.

I'm new and don't know what the best solution is.
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Old 10-13-2019, 07:39 AM   #2
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Re: Issues With Concrete Saw Cuts


Buy a Festool rail saw and a 12' rail and make the cuts wide enough to straighten them? It's that or the sledge hammer.

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What type of saw did your guy use? A handheld or walk behind.

You might be able to straiten them out with a good walk behind, but like Kowboy stated,
Some type of saw guide and make the cuts wider.

Is this house in an area with a significant frost depth? I see the grade was lowered next to the house to level the area for the patio. If the foundation does not have frost protection, you'll have bigger issues to deal with.
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What Kowboy said or give them something back.
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Buy a Festool rail saw and a 12' rail and make the cuts wide enough to straighten them? It's that or the sledge hammer.
How wide can I make the cuts? and how deep?
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What type of saw did your guy use? A handheld or walk behind.

You might be able to straiten them out with a good walk behind, but like Kowboy stated,
Some type of saw guide and make the cuts wider.

Is this house in an area with a significant frost depth? I see the grade was lowered next to the house to level the area for the patio. If the foundation does not have frost protection, you'll have bigger issues to deal with.
Handheld saw.

In Portland, Oregon so not significant frost depth. The foundation exposed all around the house. I poured the pad all the way to the foundation. should I have left a gap between the foundation and the pad???
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What’s the upper deck going to be supported by?
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yeah, I'm gonna have to. They are holding the second half of the payment until this is fixed. I was thinking about giving them $500 credit.
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What’s the upper deck going to be supported by?
their deck contractor had dug 5 footings 2'X2'. so it's a continuous pour and the deck guy is going to drill brackets into the pad on top of the footings for the posts.
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I'd do the credit if it won't hurt you too bad, and they sign a finalized payment letter.

Better to lose 500 than try and fix it and screw it up worse. Then it would be a redo.

Good luck. Heck if it was my house, that little swerve wouldn't even matter. However, being in Portland, I feel your pain.

But not being in Portland, it doesn't hurt too much.

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I'd do the credit if it won't hurt you too bad, and they sign a finalized payment letter.

Better to lose 500 than try and fix it and screw it up worse. Then it would be a redo.

Good luck. Heck if it was my house, that little swerve wouldn't even matter. However, being in Portland, I feel your pain.

But not being in Portland, it doesn't hurt too much.

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They won't cut a check for the second half at all until I fix it. so not I'm nervous about trying to widen the cuts to straighten them out. how wide is too wide???
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If this were someplace hot and the cuts were real wavy, I'd give them an upgrade to something like a KoolDeck coating and cut that. Better not mess it up on that one, though.
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They won't cut a check for the second half at all until I fix it. so not I'm nervous about trying to widen the cuts to straighten them out. how wide is too wide???
It's purely aesthetics, so the customer will decide what's too wide.
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Time to move on...

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We have decided to contact a concrete cutting guy to come evaluate the situation and tell us if he can fix it. we definitely not letting the original guy touch this again.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/58...e-saw-cuts#n=5

Apparently, you're fired.
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Time to move on...

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We have decided to contact a concrete cutting guy to come evaluate the situation and tell us if he can fix it. we definitely not letting the original guy touch this again.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/58...e-saw-cuts#n=5

Apparently, you're fired.
I'm fine with that! rather not deal with these folks. Most folks would be ok with these cuts, but not them! some people are hard to please!

She sent me 22 pics of every little thing that wasnt to her liking!!!! from the corners not bein round enough, to color not matching, to the mess my crew made, ...... just non stop!!!
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If you can maker her happy with knocking off a nickel that's the route I'd take.
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Why didn't you do a wet control line?


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Why didn't you do a wet control line?


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What is a wet control line? I'm new and mostly been doing doing sidewalk repairs and new sidewalks and just put tool cuts in. worked for my brother for a year and started doing my own thing this summer.
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What is a wet control line? I'm new and mostly been doing doing sidewalk repairs and new sidewalks and just put tool cuts in. worked for my brother for a year and started doing my own thing this summer.


Why didn't you put the control lines in the concrete when it was poured?


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I'm fine with that! rather not deal with these folks. Most folks would be ok with these cuts, but not them! some people are hard to please!

She sent me 22 pics of every little thing that wasnt to her liking!!!! from the corners not bein round enough, to color not matching, to the mess my crew made, ...... just non stop!!!
if you are planning to stay in construction it would be to your advantage to try and work with your clients.

sounds like the saw cuts are the straw that broke the camels back.

details like corner radius, color match should have been discussed prior to start.

as far as your crew's mess were you on the job?

the poor saw cuts are not acceptable nor would wider ones be.

when did the owners decide on saw cutting the control joints?

once again this should have been decided prior to the job starting.

if saw cuts were preferred you should have researched how to do them or subbed it out.

you not knowing about saw cutting or wet control joints tells me you are extremely inexperienced and likely should work for some one else for awhile.

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