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Old 09-14-2007, 05:36 PM   #1
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Decorative Concrete Biz?


Curious if anybody here is doing decorative concrete biz??? Acid staining, decorative overlay, coloring, etc....
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I'll bid stained concrete and concrete countertops in the winter months when excessive rain keeps me from playing in the mud. It's alright, but I don't want to make that the forefront of my business. I also don't promote for it, all work comes thru referrals of my existing customer base.

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I'll bid stained concrete and concrete countertops in the winter months when excessive rain keeps me from playing in the mud. It's alright, but I don't want to make that the forefront of my business. I also don't promote for it, all work comes thru referrals of my existing customer base.
Can I ask why it's kind of an after thought for you? Not worth it? Don't like it? Focused on other things?

I'm kinda looking at starting something up. Just doing research on whether it is viable and a good idea for me.
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It is always good to have diversity....available to a point. We can do tile, stamped concrete, acid staining, concrete countertops.....and a lot of other things I don't push. I would rather have large projects....now my son, after working the last stamping job is hearing about $12 and up a sq/ft....so he is thinking he will pursue this, along with the insulation business that is his sideline.
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I have been a Carpenter, Roofer, window installer. about 10 years ago I started messing with decorative concrete and now there is nothing else I want to do. I will replicate any stone or brick look on a wall, floor, countertopj, showers. I love to see the reaction on my customer faces.
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jay,

12$ a square, get him out here!!!!!!!!!
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Can I ask why it's kind of an after thought for you? Not worth it? Don't like it? Focused on other things?

I'm kinda looking at starting something up. Just doing research on whether it is viable and a good idea for me.

It is something I have the ability to do, I have the knack for it, just not my cup of tea for a day to day way to make a living. I prefer ICF's, working out in the open lifting something that weighs less than 8 lbs. and get paid better for doing it. Besides being a finish trade you always have to wonder if there is any money left to pay you when done, doing ICF's I am at the front of the line and if they can't afford to pay me...there is a definate problem -
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How about Ray, I send my son to you this spring, after he has framed a few houses for experience, and you teach him the pool trade? We will negotiate a deal on him.....he can bring his currently meager deco concrete experience with him (should be extensive by then since we can pour concrete all year here) and you show him the business I want to learn.....
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and you show him the business I want to learn.....
funny, ive always wondered why in the hell I couldn't just learn framing
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funny, ive always wondered why in the hell I couldn't just learn framing
And my first question would be why would you want to?

My son, as some of you might remember, left the car finance trade to work with me.....if this experience doesn't kill me, it can only make me stronger.... Sending him to another contractor might be a way for me to avoid taking prozac, or seeing a shrink......if he wasn't 2 inches taller and 21 years younger, I would look like Homer Simpson holding him by his neck.....

I am going to give my son a lot to build one of my spec plans and sell....all he has to do is secure financing for his own house, and frame mine at no cost to me (we do flip plans, so they are easy to do). If he screws up, it will be twice as bad.
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no.

just send him & ill sell his 12$ sq, for $26....

& btw, jay, I've read your flirting with insanity lately, the pool biz will get you a padded room & straight jacket. its an ugly biz...

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Well Ray...one of these days, give me a call....we may deal yet. See where the economy is heading and get a feel for next year. Maybe you should come south...the pool business here is pretty good, from what I hear, and they build all year.
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I have a concrete countertop business. I can say for you guys that do it 'only as needed' please make sure you do it good. The last thing we need is hacks out there giving concrete countertops a bad name, which in turn drives down prices.

I've seen some of that up here. People who know people who have had bad experiences with concrete 'pros', and are now turned off by it. The same thing can be said with some of the larger high end cabinet designers.

Every top I put out is stain proof and heat resistant up to 300 degrees. Soon to be 900 with a new sealer system Im going to use.
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What sealer are you going to 6?
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Stonelok.

Very pricey and it take practice putting it on right, but it will be well worth it.

I usually spray me sealers on, so I will have a bit of an advantage when I use it.
But it is very abrasion resistant as well.
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Well Ray...one of these days, give me a call....we may deal yet. See where the economy is heading and get a feel for next year. Maybe you should come south...the pool business here is pretty good, from what I hear, and they build all year.
the pool biz ... hmm

Joasis - as one of the more wiser and regarded members of this forum, as well as someone I think I would really respect and look up to real life

I've seriously got to question your level of sanity as well




it gets pretty dark down here ....


btw ... i'd build in Conn. anyday over Texas ...
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When you have to worry about what the economy is doing, you may not be good enough to get into the business, - yet. My problem is I cant find a pool guy to do his damn thing. I guess i'll have to get into this business also to get my intended end result. This is how things are going in my neighborhood.
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When you have to worry about what the economy is doing, you may not be good enough to get into the business, - yet. My problem is I cant find a pool guy to do his damn thing. I guess i'll have to get into this business also to get my intended end result. This is how things are going in my neighborhood.
what do you do now?
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This is a vinyl liner pool. I designed it, constructed the catch basin, vaulted the hot tub, installed the retaining wall, did all the excavating, compaction, and fine grading, called in all the inspections, coordinated all the trades, AND did all the stamped concrete.
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Besides that, I do fast cars, fast boats, and fast women
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