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heavy_d 01-23-2018 08:26 PM

Spraying crown moulding?
 
Hey guys. Usually I brush crown moulding but recently got the new Graco cordless spray gun and want to spray the crown. It will already be installed. I also have to paint the ceiling (roll) so what order would you do things in?
Btw, the walls are already painted but I don't mind cutting in under the crown.

Should I spray the crown two coats (semi gloss) with no masking, and have the paint feather onto the ceiling and wall, then once dry, roll the ceiling both coats and cut into the crown? In this scenario, will the semigloss flash through the flat ceiling paint? This is my fear.

Or should I paint the ceiling, And then mask above and below the crown and spray both coats of semi gloss?

I want to do the first option but am worried about flashing. Thoughts?

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heavy_d 01-23-2018 08:47 PM

Or maybe I should just brush the crown. I don't know if I can justify the expense of all the extra masking that will need to be done to spray the crown in a finished home.

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Golden view 01-23-2018 09:25 PM

I always spray trim first and it doesn't flash. But cutting at the ceiling sucks. I'd let the crown dry thoroughly and mask with something like 2080 before rolling the ceiling.

heavy_d 01-23-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden view (Post 6719137)
I always spray trim first and it doesn't flash. But cutting at the ceiling sucks. I'd let the crown dry thoroughly and mask with something like 2080 before rolling the ceiling.

How many coats do you spray, And semi gloss?

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JBH 01-23-2018 11:15 PM

In any newly-constructed space (i.e., all new drywall, all new trim) I use a Titan sprayer to do all the cutting in - walls, ceilings, trim. Then one coat satin latex on all trim (doors, jambs, casings, baseboards, crowns). No masking, not even window glass (a single-edged razor easily deals with the overspray). Then brush/roll the rest - I've never have a problem with the sheen on trim overspray showing through flat ceiling or wall paint.

Frankly I have no idea how anyone paints trim with a brush. With a sprayer I can paint every door and all trim in an entire house in an hour.

Xtrememtnbiker 01-23-2018 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JBH (Post 6719705)
In any newly-constructed space (i.e., all new drywall, all new trim) I use a Titan sprayer to do all the cutting in - walls, ceilings, trim. Then one coat satin latex on all trim (doors, jambs, casings, baseboards, crowns). No masking, not even window glass (a single-edged razor easily deals with the overspray). Then brush/roll the rest - I've never have a problem with the sheen on trim overspray showing through flat ceiling or wall paint.

Frankly I have no idea how anyone paints trim with a brush. With a sprayer I can paint every door and all trim in an entire house in an hour.

Really?

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Golden view 01-23-2018 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by heavy_d (Post 6719241)
How many coats do you spray, And semi gloss?

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2 coats Benjamin Moore Advance. Satin or Semi.

heavy_d 01-24-2018 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBH (Post 6719705)
In any newly-constructed space (i.e., all new drywall, all new trim) I use a Titan sprayer to do all the cutting in - walls, ceilings, trim. Then one coat satin latex on all trim (doors, jambs, casings, baseboards, crowns). No masking, not even window glass (a single-edged razor easily deals with the overspray). Then brush/roll the rest - I've never have a problem with the sheen on trim overspray showing through flat ceiling or wall paint.

Frankly I have no idea how anyone paints trim with a brush. With a sprayer I can paint every door and all trim in an entire house in an hour.

Its not newly constructed. It's a remodel. Thanks for saying it won't flash through. I'm going to spray the crown first then.

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Sir Mixalot 01-24-2018 07:45 AM

I like to spray the crown last. I cover the ceiling and wall next to the crown with paper using my 3M masking machine. This technique results in a glass like finish with "Perfect lines". You will be the man!:thumbup:

KAP 01-24-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Mixalot (Post 6720057)
I like to spray the crown last. I cover the ceiling and wall next to the crown with paper using my 3M masking machine. This technique results in a glass like finish with "Perfect lines". You will be the man!:thumbup:

Same... in most cases, we always paint whatever's closest (protruding) to us last...

tjbnwi 01-24-2018 11:13 AM

Get a masking machine. Only regret you'll have is not getting one sooner.

Tom

heavy_d 01-24-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tjbnwi (Post 6720625)
Get a masking machine. Only regret you'll have is not getting one sooner.

Tom

What's a masking machine? I do have a 3m hand masker.

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heavy_d 01-24-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Mixalot (Post 6720057)
I like to spray the crown last. I cover the ceiling and wall next to the crown with paper using my 3M masking machine. This technique results in a glass like finish with "Perfect lines". You will be the man![emoji106]

Thanks. If I was brushing the crown I would do it last. But I really want to try my new Graco cordless for this. I got a new 310 tip for it. And I'm rolling the ceiling.

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tjbnwi 01-24-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by heavy_d (Post 6720649)
What's a masking machine? I do have a 3m hand masker.

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A car day holdover...

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-ma...caAj7KEALw_wcB

They make single roll units also.

Tom

heavy_d 01-24-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tjbnwi (Post 6720745)
A car day holdover...

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-ma...caAj7KEALw_wcB

They make single roll units also.

Tom

That thing is awesome but I mostly build decks. The hand masker will suffice.

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Ohio painter 01-24-2018 03:51 PM

The differences between us are interesting, no one is right or wrong in how we paint. We all have various goals and expectations, and different customers.
I rarely spray interior, (new construction is a different beast)
In an empty house I will spray ceilings but we brush all trim and cut and roll walls.
I have customers who insist we brush the trim, no spraying. It is no problem for us.
Not everyone likes the slick look of a sprayed finish but prefer the rich look of quality brush work.
I sub for a house builder, all we paint for him are the exterior doors, it's not much I know but we always fit him in when he calls. He calls on us because we can brush paint the doors to his standard, my guy gets them perfect every time.

I just don't see spraying as the answer, and I do a lot of exterior spraying.
At the end of the day as long as you enjoy your work, customer is happy and we make a profit then life is good.

Ohio painter 01-24-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JBH (Post 6719705)

Frankly I have no idea how anyone paints trim with a brush. With a sprayer I can paint every door and all trim in an entire house in an hour.

How do you mask off all the door hinges in that time?

Sir Mixalot 01-24-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavy_d (Post 6720673)
Thanks. If I was brushing the crown I would do it last. But I really want to try my new Graco cordless for this. I got a new 310 tip for it. And I'm rolling the ceiling.

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I'm saying spray it last.:thumbsup:

Xtrememtnbiker 01-24-2018 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio painter (Post 6721145)
How do you mask off all the door hinges in that time?

He only works in tiny house's.

Last week he was saying he couldn't imagine a bathroom taking more than 2 weeks to complete. :whistling


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