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Old 10-25-2006, 08:50 PM   #1
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ok....just need to check with my pro friends....painted a home...new construction previous painted by builder...really dry walls...did some spackling...primed those spots..painted the walls with 2 coats of satin with BIG window on far wall....could still see the prime marks...so put 2 more coats of paint on wall....still can see prime spots.usually after 4 coats of paint these prime spots disapear....was it the satin paint...that damn big window that shows everything or should i have primed. .....and do you always prime homes that still have builder paint on the wall??
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Whatcha prime it with?

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My question too!
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Me too

And I know you like to use SWP
Which one was it (for the paint)? or was it something else?
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I like to prime repairs with the actual paint that will be the final coat. I have found that some primers do chnage the sheen of the final coat. Like Kills oderless for one.
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My last post of Yesterday. WTF?
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I like to prime repairs with the actual paint that will be the final coat. I have found that some primers do chnage the sheen of the final coat. Like Kills oderless for one.
Huh???

I use a primer to prime, not my finish paint.

Sometimes I'll quickly go over the primer spots with finish before I cut the wall in, but never just the finish over the repair. That's asking for trouble.
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i used kilz orderless and then painted with sw..super paint....yiks i guess kilz is the culprit??what is the fix for this problem??
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Did you check it after full dry time. I have seen this before but after full cure it went away.
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I ve never had luck spot priming a repair with a kilz product. I would have used SW pro-Block over the entire panel tinted the same as the top coat.--not spot priming. Too many problems as you see, especially with a satin or egg-shell. Too fix this I reccomend overprime the entire panel, tinted same as top and cover with the top coat. Problems should dissappear.

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Good advice Timmy. That's pretty much how I would do it. However, if you're spot priming and using paint with a sheen, next time try Zinsser's Gardz on it. It's a sealer and will even out the porosity of the substrate in that area so you don't see the flashing. Werks good.
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The only Kilz product that works is Original Kilz
The rest stink on ice

And that chalky builders paint can be a problem
I like to prime that with Gardz

To avoid putting 4 coats paint on the problem areas, you might try re-priming (spot) with a better primer, but you still should do two coats of paint over that

You may be better off 'spot priming' with the paint you are using to get extra coats on the problem areas w/o any flashing issues
(Not sure how SP works with that kinda stuff, with BM AquaVelvet that would work fine)
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What colors?
buiders colors....
primer color... White?
your color...(satin)?
medium base or deep base ?
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I will spot prime with the finish paint twice on anything the size of a penny, or smaller... If it's larger, I bust out the cover stain to avoid any frog eye, or bubbles.
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I think some of the primers dry so that they are actuallly smoother than bare drywall. I usually hit them with sand paper before painting.

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is it the primer your seeing flash or did your patchwork just suck. No priming will hide that.
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Kilz, four coats.. umm, was the orginal coats sprayed? Sounds like a spray job with no backroll. I mean, oil kilz or even the latex shouldnt flash after four coats... unless you just suck at painting.. heh. Or as baldy said, whats the texture on the walls?
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Didn't think of that one. If it's severely orange peeled, then patched and the patch is smooth you'll get the same thing.
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first off you folks are the best..big smooch to all of you.so many questions to answer....the original color was builder off white sprayed ...the paint was a medium base sw blonde satin finish...it definitely was not the spackle spot because it showed up as square boxes......i primed with a roller..it didn't fully cure it was only a day old
now my questions Gardz...the same stuff i use for sealing sheetrock that has been damaged?
i was always told that i need to prime bigger spots because the paint won't adhere to the spackle...true or false??
so your saying in a situation with larger spots i should prime the whole wall...or the whole area...not just the 3 x 3 spots...or could i just prime the area spackled with gardz
"i bust out the cover stain to avoid any frog eyes"...what the heck does that mean??
DOES ANYONE WANT A CAN OF LOW ODER KILZ???

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if it was my job,I would prime the whole wall,,paint the whole wall...just my two cents.

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