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Old 04-08-2007, 04:56 AM   #121
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Duh! I reread. Guess I was not paying attention.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:40 AM   #122
 
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3149.68 sq foot of walls to be painted in this house.

The whole house is painted beige.

3 bedrooms plus closets, kitchen, living rm, dining rm will be painted Caramel Suede.

The Foyer, upstairs hallway, and hallstairs will be painted base coat stone brier then colorwashed with artition tan w/glaze.

2 bathrooms and laundry room will be painted base coat artition tan colorwashed with stonebrier.

No Doors need to be painted.
All Trim needs to be painted same color white glaze.

crack fix in wall above door in bedroom

7 punch outs from nail. 6 in bathroom ceiling. one in master bedroom ceiling. textured ceilings.

The hinges of 13 doors will be replaced. 13 door handles will be replaced.

Customer Pays for all paint and supplies.

$2415.10 Only person painting the job. Deadline within 2 weeks.

Awaiting to hear back to see if won...Cool. I won. She never even wanted another bidder.

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Your kidding right? Thats your price for all that work?
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Oh, and I won this job. There were no other bids. North carolina is a crazy place when it comes to painting. Without a doubt in my mind i would have been underbid by someone here.
It's that price for a good reason. This person's house i am painting knows people. All jobs are an advertisement in some way when friends talk to friends. (that's why u don't **** up!) But this job will open doors for me. That's the price after I gave her a 400 dollar discount. It is crazy how the price is so different everywhere. But everyone I am sure sees the difference between a job done in 3-7 days by a few men... Rather than just one taking the profit. Working alone has its perks. Making a thousand a week in my book is definetely not getting underpaid. Plus I have no overhead to worry about.
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1k a week w/o much over head is still not a lot of money when your self employed, can't forget your going to pay taxes on that money, social security for yourself and the company, self employment taxes, and hopefully you have insurance etc.. I can go on and on...
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1k a week w/o much over head is still not a lot of money when your self employed, can't forget your going to pay taxes on that money, social security for yourself and the company, self employment taxes, and hopefully you have insurance etc.. I can go on and on...
I agree, I almost think this guy is pulling our leg.

lets not forget about workers comp, truck ins, truck payment??, cell phone, reg phone, retirement,

I hope this guys is not in the mind set that after he pays for the paint, whats left is his profit
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Promise, I am not pulling anyone's leg. I know what you mean with the overhead thing. Everyone's got bills to pay (except homeless people...though, they probably do still have bills). But since I won the job, the job has changed. I let the customer know it would take about 30 gallons of suede paint to do what they wanted. After I painted the bedroom, (300 some sq ft), I had used 4 gallons of paint. So, they changed their plan to just pain the bedrooms with suede paint(so it will be 15 gallons instead) (thank the sweet lord). I do see now why u would think I was puling your chain. I was way over my head. Suede paint is by far the toughest **** on this planet to paint, even though, i'm sure there is worse. Now i'll just be colorwashing (which is freaken simple compared to that other ****). I'm telling ya, the customer already got me two solid leads set up for when i'm done. Once I get done, maybe i'll put the pics on here.

And i admit, i'm getting underpaid by at least a thousand. (coulda charged 3-4 g's i think. But I had never painted suede nore colorwashing.
I didn't have the confidence to sell myself for those prices since i had no experience doing it. Next time around, I'll be ready.

I knew i was in deep **** when the manager at sherwin williams said I would have to let them know ahead of time so they could stock up on suede...

later. this thread is awesome.
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I know this is an old thread, but I thought it would be interesting in todays economic climate.

New addition, walls and trim only:
1284 sq ft of drywall
approximately 160 base
One set of French doors
7 window faceings
1 6 ft opening jam and trim

1 coat tinted primer on the walls, 1 coat paint.
1 coat paint on preprimed trim and base

40 mile round trip

Labor $900

Lost. More than ho expected.
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The customer thought that 900.00 was too high??? Unbelievable. I'd have quoted triple, if not quadruple, that.
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:33 PM   #131
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Wondering why this thread had done so well and all other pricing threads get booted quickly. It seems that it would not be a totally bad idea to have a thread call "Wall Sq. Ft. Price today in your town" Hell who knows we may be able to raise the price right here today.
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The customer thought that 900.00 was too high??? Unbelievable. I'd have quoted triple, if not quadruple, that.

I am trying to remember the particulars of that job. I do know I had made a mistake and had too many walls figured to start with. Seems my correction needed corrected. I think I left something out. That price looks way off! I guess the Lord looks after us fools after all. I am glad it was too high. Ma

aRRG, SEEMS MY PUTER IS ON THE BLINK, CAN'T FINISH TH EPOST RIGHT NOW. dAMNED CAPS ARE ACTING UP.

As I was trying to get across, maybe I should have got him to travel the 20 mile one way trip and priced my roof I just had done.

Actually, he did not say it was too high, just more than they expected and they were going to do it themselves.

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Old 12-26-2013, 09:58 PM   #134
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Okay I'm a little late in this thread, the power has been out here for 4 days. To start with the description of what was in the job was very vague. A room 10 x 12, walls 2 coats and trim 1 coat with minimal prep. Minimal prep on walls to me includes running a sanding pole over the walls to knock off the tips of the crap left by the previous painter, patching nail holes no longer wanted and spot priming with finish coat Trim would include a very quick sand with no stopping to remove drips or sags from a previous job and caulking only things that paint would not fill.

Ok as we all know trim and prep is 80% of the job, once that's done, personally I can cut and roll a typical room that size twice in 2 1/2 hours. So back to the trim..how many doors, windows and oh yeah are the windows build outs only or full on mullion. How many doors, are they flat panel or 6 panel raised? How big is the trim? Are the hinges to be painted over or nicely cut around. The variables are endless.

For me and my customers the minimal prep I have described is not up to standards. For a room that size with 2 windows with only build outs, 2 half doors and frames with base and casing being around 3" $950 plus materials is high. It would be a price that I would give if I was too busy or just plain didn't like the vibes I got when pricing it.

There is approx $200 in materials and $600 in my time to do the job...tops

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I just ran some numbers ans without actually looking at the job I came up with about 17,500.00. I'm loving this thread.
I also ran my numbers and came up with $12210, but I'm in NC where there is too much competition and rates are getting lowered every day.
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Actually it's only 3 men on the job, and it looks like we will finish in 8 days. Can I ask for the scope of work that you see what you guys would have charged? Be honest. She showed me the other quotes on this job, I was the highest by nearly 1500.00

I would have quoted about $8220.
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Job, 72,000 sq ft commercial job
walls only, but chair rail with 2 color on the walls
prime and sand
2 coats of paint
fill holes in chair rail and trim
price bid $66,500
Job lost, but the contractor asked if I would match the lowest price in the low 30,000
range I told him I could not make any money at .65 cents a sq ft,WTH, I gave him a fair price to begin with. I hate commercial work always some one who is willing to work for free.
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Promise, I am not pulling anyone's leg. I know what you mean with the overhead thing. Everyone's got bills to pay (except homeless people...though, they probably do still have bills). But since I won the job, the job has changed. I let the customer know it would take about 30 gallons of suede paint to do what they wanted. After I painted the bedroom, (300 some sq ft), I had used 4 gallons of paint. So, they changed their plan to just pain the bedrooms with suede paint(so it will be 15 gallons instead) (thank the sweet lord). I do see now why u would think I was puling your chain. I was way over my head. Suede paint is by far the toughest **** on this planet to paint, even though, i'm sure there is worse. Now i'll just be colorwashing (which is freaken simple compared to that other ****). I'm telling ya, the customer already got me two solid leads set up for when i'm done. Once I get done, maybe i'll put the pics on here.

And i admit, i'm getting underpaid by at least a thousand. (coulda charged 3-4 g's i think. But I had never painted suede nore colorwashing.
I didn't have the confidence to sell myself for those prices since i had no experience doing it. Next time around, I'll be ready.

I knew i was in deep **** when the manager at sherwin williams said I would have to let them know ahead of time so they could stock up on suede...

later. this thread is awesome.
...you're thinking on discounts for things you're not confident with is upsidedown my friend...everyone is taking risks...no reason you should be the one lose for it...
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Job, 72,000 sq ft commercial job
walls only, but chair rail with 2 color on the walls
prime and sand
2 coats of paint
fill holes in chair rail and trim
price bid $66,500
Job lost, but the contractor asked if I would match the lowest price in the low 30,000
range I told him I could not make any money at .65 cents a sq ft,WTH, I gave him a fair price to begin with. I hate commercial work always some one who is willing to work for free.
Yup sounds about right some idiot at $30,000 grand gonna lose his shirt but takes away good work for us. Sad thing about this old thread is prices have not changed at all still plenty of guys starting paint business thinking there gonna make money at $30-35 bucks an hr. Why 99% percent of painters go out of business in first 2 years and lucky to make 5 before they fold. Number one reason is not charging for there work. So many in my own area in person I have seen fall by the way side but what sucks is all the good profitable work they take .
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Job, 72,000 sq ft commercial job
walls only, but chair rail with 2 color on the walls
prime and sand
2 coats of paint
fill holes in chair rail and trim
price bid $66,500
Job lost, but the contractor asked if I would match the lowest price in the low 30,000
range I told him I could not make any money at .65 cents a sq ft,WTH, I gave him a fair price to begin with. I hate commercial work always some one who is willing to work for free.
I have NEVER gotten a paint job based on 1.00 foot pricing not even close. 35 an hour labor and your labor better be tight.

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