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Old 01-10-2020, 06:19 PM   #1
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Painting Inside When It's Dark And Winter Outside?


Hi guys, anyone have any good ways to do a good job when it's dark and overcast outside, and dark out by 4.30pm.

I've used halogen lights before, it's OK but you get all these weird shadows.
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The latest and greatest is to use LED Cobb lights. In the ceiling fixture or wire it up to hang in the center of the room.

Here 35 watt LED watt equals 300 watt conventional bulb.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076HKH373...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I wouldn't use a 6500K bulb, will show every defect...you'll never get out of there. I'd suggest 3500 - 4000K Bright White / Soft White.

Check Ebay too.

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Something to consider. Putting something in front of the light to take down the hard shadows for painting. Scuffed up piece of plexi glass, light translucent fabric. Lose some brightness but the shadows are softer. Knock down doesn't look like craters on the moon.
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Nothing compares to natural light when it comes to painting only thing I suggest is to get as much light as possible and halogen sucks.
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We use LED work lights on tripods, i put long enough cords on them so we can easily move them around as needed. Not the best set up and i don't really care for LED but better than the hot halogens and their fire risk with plastic hanging everywhere.

Also for general residential painting we usually aim the lights straight up and bounce the light off the ceiling and that works ok for eliminating shadows.

For general repair / patching type prep work after the walls are sanded one person inspects the walls with a handheld LED light and marks with tape all the repairs. Then the guys patching are only patching where marked and so they don't have to hold a light and inspect while holding a mud pan and knife. We have found it to be quite efficient.

I like that idea of the cobb light bulb.
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In new construction I make sure most lights are wired up and I hang pigtail lights and use bare bulb 100-200 watt equivalent led. With the idea being brighter than the final permanent lighting will be. Frosted bulbs are nice and weird-shadow free.

For remodels same concept, just replace their bulbs with your brighter bulbs.
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There is no great answer, but LEDs have helped.

Half the time I use two totes each with 4-6 clamp lights using LEDs on the rim of each.
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Install the lamps like they are the Sun, as HIGH as possible out of your Sight line, Not the tenders.....

Require sparky lights BOTH sides of the wall, at the start and finish, the majority very near the top of the wall under construction...

Shine the down the wall face.....instant increased quality with low cost....

Have "secondary" lighting UNDER the material deck.....

LEDs allow one 20 Ampere circuit to light a crew's work space up

Paint as much of your shack materials WHITE or near white gray...

Use trans parent poly, but doubled up for heat retention, and "free" lighting.

Good lighting that allows quality work before and after sunrise and set are money makers that put sheltered jobs into the 'Black' earnings wise.

Some walls will need lighting even in the Heart of Summer for quality and safety.
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I use one of these for painting. It turns dark into daylight. It's mounted on a 6' piece of pipe that is attached to a heavy metal base.

https://www.topbulb.com/topaz-lpt36-...p-lights-5000k
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I use one of these for painting. It turns dark into daylight. It's mounted on a 6' piece of pipe that is attached to a heavy metal base.

https://www.topbulb.com/topaz-lpt36-...p-lights-5000k
did something very similar, took an old pole light and fitted one of these to it, with an old factory light reflector mounted under the bulb so it bounces the light up to the ceiling. Lights up everything, no working in your own shadow.
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I have 2 of these the best lights I've used.

https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Head-Tel...dDbGljaz10cnVl
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I have 2 of these the best lights I've used.

https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Head-Tel...dDbGljaz10cnVl
Durable? So many tripod lights seem to last only a year or two.
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Durable? So many tripod lights seem to last only a year or two.
Well can't say it's been handled roughly, it's built differently than your common metal tripod. The last metal one I had was knocked over by a customer and broke, others just fell apart. Haven't had any issues but they're not used on a daily basis.
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I wouldn't use a 6500K bulb, will show every defect...

Check Ebay too.
Don't you WANT to fix everything?
Does your business card say "Good Enough"?
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I wouldn't use a 6500K bulb, will show every defect...you'll never get out of there. I'd suggest 3500 - 4000K Bright White / Soft White.

Check Ebay too.
I haven't noticed color temperature impacting how many defects I can see. Just brightness.
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Don't you WANT to fix everything?
Does your business card say "Good Enough"?
I'd rather see the defects while I'm working then to come in the next morning in different lighting and say "That looks like crap"

That's the problem with natural lighting at different times of the day. Had a house that I was getting ready to put on the market client says "There's about an 18" crack in the front" I couldn't see anything until the sun was on the opposite side of the house.
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I've got one wall in my living room that for one hour in the afternoon on one day of the year the sun shines directly across the wall and it looks like absolute crap. If the sun happens to be out that day. Every other day and in all other lighting it looks perfectly fine.

I have this bulb that I screw into a regular clamp light (after removing the reflector) that works well.

https://www.rockler.com/lumen-led-ut...iABEgJ6HfD_BwE

I also have a halogen light with a frosted lens that works well but doesn't seem to be made anymore.

https://www.amazon.com/Regent-Painte.../dp/B000HJ98ZM

I also have the Milwaukee m12 tower light that worked great on the last paint job that I did. You can run it on a battery or plug it into an extension cord.

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