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Old 06-02-2015, 10:46 AM   #1
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Paint Chipping, No Primer?


When we started sending this wall paint started to flake off the more we scraped the more chips off with ease. It looks like no primer was applied to this wall.

Does anybody have a solution to expedite the preparation of this wall so we can put paint on?
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:00 AM   #2
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When we started sending this wall paint started to flake off the more we scraped the more chips off with ease. It looks like no primer was applied to this wall.

Does anybody have a solution to expedite the preparation of this wall so we can put paint on?
Have 2 guys sand with 100 and 120 sandpaper. Prime, major patching prime again then finish

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About the only thing you can do is crape until it stops coming off, sand it good, lock it down with an oil primer, patch, sand, prime....etc. Is there paint under the stuff that's chipping off? I'm thinking it's a classic case of latex on top of oil.
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About the only thing you can do is crape until it stops coming off, sand it good, lock it down with an oil primer, patch, sand, prime....etc. Is there paint under the stuff that's chipping off? I'm thinking it's a classic case of latex on top of oil.
From the looks of the picture it's going straight to bare drywall. Maybe they put a pearl or satin with no primer
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it was chipping off to the paper. We scraped 50% of it and then hit it with a primer/sealer. then spackle, sand, spackle, primer paint.

Thanks everyone. between you and the guy at sherwin williams, we are gonna get this one knocked out.
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Lock it down with BIN primer. It'll dry hard like a turtle shell.
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Use Glidden gripper as your only primer and you will never have a problem. You can't pull it off with a front end loader and it will stick to any surface bar none. Have seen this happen more than once. Several things will cause this. Sprayed when texture/compound not completely dry with high humidity, too much water or bad mix from supplier. As mentioned above water over oil.
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Use Glidden gripper as your only primer and you will never have a problem. You can't pull it off with a front end loader and it will stick to any surface bar none. Have seen this happen more than once. Several things will cause this. Sprayed when texture/compound not completely dry with high humidity, too much water or bad mix from supplier. As mentioned above water over oil.
Actually, no offense to the Gipper (Glidden) but over those areas where he wasn't able to remove all the badly adhering paint, a hard "turtle shell" coating using pigmented shellac gives him the best chance of locking down those areas AND providing a super "hard coating" if it gets bumped up against. Of course the idea is to get off all the old paint that isn't sticking worth a damn, but sometimes that just isn't possible.

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Gripper is one of the best primers out there for most surfaces. However it doesn't seal down loose material. For that I use guardz or oil.
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Oops, didn't see Caslon's last post.
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Basically I was trying to get across to the op if they use gripper from jump they wont have this problem. Agreed it needs to be locked down in this situation. Last mess I had like this was painted wet where gc was pushing closing. I didn't paint it but had to fix it. Sorry for not being a little more clear
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Gardz. Wonderful stuff.


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