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Old 06-12-2019, 10:06 AM   #21
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I'm real, that's exactly what I've done when I've been in that situation.

I assume you'd put a sign on the doors: please do not scratch or bump into. Wish I'd thought of that.
Think about it...most people don't claw at cabinet door faces. The edges might get dinged up. So what? Why go to all that bother?

I got a laugh about spritzing hot water with some dish soap to loosen up the latex paint film, then scrubbing it off.

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Think about it...most people don't claw at cabinet door faces. The edges might get dinged up. So what? Why go to all that bother?

I got a laugh about spritzing hot water with some dish soap to loosen up the latex paint film, then scrubbing it off.

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My priority in painting is always structural integrity and durability. Looks are a distant second. I like to know the job will last as long as it is reasonable, and also it will cause no issues for the next owner or the next painter, and the one after. In this regard it makes no sense to differentiate between built-in robe doors and the front entrance.
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Cabinet doors get scratched by fingernails all the time. Bad adhesion and they'll go right through it.
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Cabinet doors get scratched by fingernails all the time. Bad adhesion and they'll go right through it.
And wedding rings! Even vacuum cleaners can do damage. Broom handles, coat hangers, kids' toys etc etc. Plus when you stick something on the door, remove the sticker and the top coat pulls off with it.
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It would seem that Caslon is in the live with it camp

Without actually seeing the job it is hard to determine an exact course of action .

I would present the customer with the options and let them decide how to proceed.

Having striped , burned , scraped and sanded failed paint off of many homes in my life , I can say none of the options are going to be cheap or easy . However it can be done

Budget will most likely be the determining factor

If the house is older than 78 rrp rules may come into effect , further increasing costs
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It would seem that Caslon is in the live with it camp

Without actually seeing the job it is hard to determine an exact course of action .

I would present the customer with the options and let them decide how to proceed.

Having striped , burned , scraped and sanded failed paint off of many homes in my life , I can say none of the options are going to be cheap or easy . However it can be done

Budget will most likely be the determining factor

If the house is older than 78 rrp rules may come into effect , further increasing costs
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Cabinet doors get scratched by fingernails all the time. Bad adhesion and they'll go right through it.
Actually, "turtle shell coat" a door with hard drying B-I-N and top coat over that with a hard drying finish enamel, then do your freaking fingernail test. You won't be able to fingernail it off. Try it. I have. You have not.

Did I say this method was better than stripping all the paint off? No.

So...all faulty latex paint must be removed If it was just plain flat latex over oil...then yes...it may well just scrub off! ***

I'm saying I've hard coated faulty latex over oil with B-I-N and a hard top coat. In certain circumstances it did damn fine ok, not great. I never said that.

The OP has a situation that is crummy to begin with. Latex over oil. One teacher lady had her cute girly classmates come over and do a "tape party"? A "tape party" is where every girl puts 3" tape over areas and pulls the tape off, taking off the latex. That worked but still looked like a mess. I passed on giving her an estimate to paint during her cute girls "tape party."

My B-I-N method is an alternative I do NOT recommend, but works OK in certain circumstances. You'll just have to trust me on that.

Hot water spritzed over the latex to soften it up suggestion made me laugh out loud. If it was cheap flat paint over glossy enamel, then yes...you could probably scrub it off. Heh, I'll still pass on a job like that. Unless the customer has deep pockets. I'll go for that.
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I've amalgamated furniture finishes and used acrylic overseal to improve latex adhesion to cement, but going something of a cross between the two with shellac hadn't occurred to me.

I'm glad it worked out for you, I can probably play around with it some to see what it will do. Thanks

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Actually, "turtle shell coat" a door with hard drying B-I-N and top coat over that with a hard drying finish enamel, then do your freaking fingernail test. You won't be able to fingernail it off. Try it. I have. You have not.

Did I say this method was better than stripping all the paint off? No.

So...all faulty latex paint must be removed If it was just plain flat latex over oil...then yes...it may well just scrub off! ***

I'm saying I've hard coated faulty latex over oil with B-I-N and a hard top coat. In certain circumstances it did damn fine ok, not great. I never said that.

The OP has a situation that is crummy to begin with. Latex over oil. One teacher lady had her cute girly classmates come over and do a "tape party"? A "tape party" is where every girl puts 3" tape over areas and pulls the tape off, taking off the latex. That worked but still looked like a mess. I passed on giving her an estimate to paint during her cute girls "tape party."

My B-I-N method is an alternative I do NOT recommend, but works OK in certain circumstances. You'll just have to trust me on that.

Hot water spritzed over the latex to soften it up suggestion made me laugh out loud. If it was cheap flat paint over glossy enamel, then yes...you could probably scrub it off. Heh, I'll still pass on a job like that. Unless the customer has deep pockets. I'll go for that.
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