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Old 12-22-2015, 10:41 PM   #1
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Festool Failure!!!!


So I picked up a painting side job after doing a deck for a customer. I have a carvex festool jig saw that I love, and I have been keeping my eye on a kapex!
I've the job I'm on we are painting a single level ranch style with redwood rustic vee siding. I've got a few rotary sanders and a random orbital 6" rigid. These have been great workhorses, but I got paid well for the last job, and in preparation for a big job I went out and bought a rotex 150. I've got to fix a lot of damage from the homeowner using a pressure washer on the siding. I've been disappointed with the festool sander!!! I'm using 40 grit to cut trough the paint to allow the wood epoxy to cover the holes and dents. My 100 dollar rigid cuts through faster on random orbital gets less clogged and seems to be better than the 600 dollar festool on rotary and random orbital setting independent of the speed setting. I am waiting for festool branded paper before final judgment is rendered but with regular paper (w/o holes) the rigid wins out. What's the deal? Where did I go wrong!!?
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Old 12-22-2015, 10:44 PM   #2
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... Where did I go wrong!!?...
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Ha!! But this does have me thinking...
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Are you in rotex mode or orbital mode?
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Use the correct paper and hook it to a vac. Turn it to rotex mode.

There is no way a rigid ro sander can keep up with a RO 150.

Get some 40g garnet.
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Are you in rotex mode or orbital mode?

I tried both at all speed settings I even sent a helper to get me some 60 grit with dust holes thinking it would help but didn't. I found the paper clogging much faster and could not get to bare wood on the festool easily. The rigid in random orbital just cut paint like butter and no clogging.
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Maybe you should use 60g instead. 40g is pretty aggressive on a rotex sander.
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Use the correct paper and hook it to a vac. Turn it to rotex mode.

There is no way a rigid ro sander can keep up with a RO 150.

Get some 40g garnet.

Ya I've got p40 garnet on the way. I swear I'm not fibbing but on p40 3m paper the rigid was rocking.

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Ya I've got p40 on the way, festool branded. I swear I'm not fibbing but on p40 3m paper the rigid was rocking.
You are on the right path.....

Buy a WAY overpriced sander, make sure you get the special paper made some where in Europe once a year & shipped every odd year to a special distributor...

Then make certain you buy enough to get you through....

or go to box store, buy cheap sander that works, with readily available paper and go make some money....

Out of koolaid yet?....
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We'll see, but I doubt the paper will make a difference but I'll post my impression after Christmas
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Surely we're all waiting to hear your better results once you put on the festool paper. I've never looked back since I got my 150. Working with the vac, the paper lasts a long time without loading and continues to cut like new. I can't imagine the Rigid keeping up
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Hook it to a vac.
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Surely we're all waiting to hear your better results once you put on the festool paper. I've never looked back since I got my 150. Working with the vac, the paper lasts a long time without loading and continues to cut like new. I can't imagine the Rigid keeping up

That's the plan, I'm really hoping as I wanted something to really help cut my down hours on the job. I really have to get down to wood to repair the damage
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Hook it to a vac.
What he said. The sander is so aggressive it's clogging the paper as soon as you start.

The Rotex sanders are amazing when you're using that special paper that arrives here once every year but not on leap year because that's confusing...

But really, get the Festool paper and hook it to a vac and you'll love it.
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Most people complain about trying to control it, not how it won't keep up with a rigid. First for everything.
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Hook it to a vac.
Needs a vac to make it suck.......

Does that on it's own.....
















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Most people complain about trying to control it, not how it won't keep up with a rigid. First for everything.
It sands many times faster than a random orbit sander. It's pretty dang awesome actually.
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Seriously ill update in Saturday, I may be eating my words... I really hope so!
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Get a good Festool dealer. I use Bob Marino. I'm not sure where your location is but pick somebody who is close enough to get you stuff in a couple days.

When you run low, order more that night, and it will be at your door in a few days. Can't beat it.

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