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Old 07-30-2016, 04:16 PM   #1
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Had planned to prime and paint panelling in a dry basement for a customer, part of a much larger job.
Customer now is less enthused about painted panelling. The panelling could be removed as one option, most likely block behind it.

Another is to remove panelling and hang new drywall, drop ceiling would have to come out and be reinstalled.

I wondered about hanging liner paper and then painting. I have hung liner paper under wallpaper and been pleased with the result, but the two layers of paper makes the grooves disappear, I am not sure only liner paper will do so, especially over a larger area.
I am just trying to provide a few options. Any thoughts?
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Old 07-30-2016, 04:46 PM   #2
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I have seen paneling skimmed and textured. Looked pretty decent.


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I worked on one 3-4 years ago where we just did a smooth skim coat. Holding up great so far.

Right now, working on one that had paneling applied over drywall. The basement flooded, and they cut everything off about 10" up, including the furring strips.

We hung new drywall right over the paneling with a PT strip behind the floating bottom edge to maintain spacing from the block. Butted the sheets against the ceiling grid and dressed up with 1/4 round. It actually looks pretty doggone nice.
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Skimming is the go to for something like this.
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What's the best method for skimming old-school paneling? 3' fiberglass mesh tape and regular compound? Thanks for advice!
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What's the best method for skimming old-school paneling? 3' fiberglass mesh tape and regular compound? Thanks for advice!
Fiberglass mesh and standard mud don't belong together. Fiberglass mesh should be used with setting mud.
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Thanks for the replies, I wondered about skimming. Are you priming the paneling before skimming?
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Prime with oil before skimming. Keeps the paneling from absorbing water from the mud.
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Another option is a 1/4" sheetrock over it tape and paint.
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If I oil-prime the paneling, can I skim the recessed vertical seams with regular compound, and mesh is unnecessary? I'd like to skip the Durabond of course if possible!


Additionally, my client would like to install paneling to match the original 1/4" plywood paneling after water damage many years ago. I found a source for this, 1/4 ply with paper faced laminate, however the supplier told me it can't be painted. One pro told me I could prime it with bonding primer and then paint it, but I'm wary- any insights?

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If I oil-prime the paneling, can I skim the recessed vertical seams with regular compound, and mesh is unnecessary? I'd like to skip the Durabond of course if possible!


Additionally, my client would like to install paneling to match the original 1/4" plywood paneling after water damage many years ago. I found a source for this, 1/4 ply with paper faced laminate, however the supplier told me it can't be painted. One pro told me I could prime it with bonding primer and then paint it, but I'm wary- any insights?

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I have done it that way, but would recommend at least putting mesh tape on seams where sheets meet. Also make sure paneling is fastened well. JC will be fine for skim.

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Don't put 3' mesh over all the paneling. If you're going to do that, just hang 1/4" board as stated above. Tape the joints. Skim everything else. Durabond is not the only setting type compound.


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Now I'm not sure what the questions are...

You want to skim the existing paneling, which covers the whole wall, then put up new paneling over it? Explain, please.
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Seems it would be better to skim coat over what's behind the paneling.
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Seems it would be better to skim coat over what's behind the paneling.

Sometimes you pull a panel and OMG, so back on it goes....
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The glue they used for the paneling is usually the pain in the butt (you have to scrape and then it tears off the paper). And around here the board behind the paneling has no tapered seams, isn't taped, and is pieced in like crazy.
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The glue they used for the paneling is usually the pain in the butt (you have to scrape and then it tears off the paper). And around here the board behind the paneling has no tapered seams, isn't taped, and is pieced in like crazy.
Around here a lot is over busted up plaster...
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Now I'm not sure what the questions are...

You want to skim the existing paneling, which covers the whole wall, then put up new paneling over it? Explain, please.
Existing paneling is partly over rock (on garage wall at least) and is about 36' straight paneling sheets including 6 panel-skinned doors, plus the stairwell, which is nicely done and more intricately cut to fit. Raw framed walls to cover amount to 60'.

Would be nice to either get new paneling to match, then prime and paint both new and old paneling with confidence, or to skim existing paneling at stairwell and either skim or remove other existing paneling and tape the rock behind it (or re-rock/ rock over it).

Existing Basement Pics: http://www.fentonfurrer.com/photo-album

Again, manufacturer says this new 1/4" plywood paneling I found- which matches existing paneling- has a paper faced laminate isn't meant to be painted. Seems a little difficult to believe but who wants to forge ahead on that caution?! So, my options seem to be to skim existing paneling, apply bonding primer and then paint new paneling, OR to install rock on raw walls and tape and skim existing paneling.


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That seems like a lot of effort to keep some ass looking paneling. I would just cover it with 3/8, cheaper than 1/4, put in a new door, hang the rest of the basement, tape, texture and call it nice and new.

If it was some exotic paneling that floated here on the ocean, maybe, but that ain't it.

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