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Old 08-05-2014, 07:27 PM   #1
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My liner developed a leak and I really don't want to put in a new one only to close the pool a week later.

Any danger to waiting until next spring to do it? Base is vermiculite/cement.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:47 PM   #2
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I wouldnt leave it with a hole all winter youre just asking for trouble.
YOutube has some good videos on ways to find the hole and every pool store sells the patch kits and some even come out and do it for you. Liner will never be the same after winter being empty.

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I plan on having a new liner made and throwing out the old one.

I don't drain the pool down in the winter, only enough to blow all the lines out and fill them with antifreeze.

I was wondering if the water on the base would cause any damage to it??
Probably be kinda nasty and need a good cleaning before the new liner would go in.
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I plan on having a new liner made and throwing out the old one.

I don't drain the pool down in the winter, only enough to blow all the lines out and fill them with antifreeze.

I was wondering if the water on the base would cause any damage to it??
Probably be kinda nasty and need a good cleaning before the new liner would go in.
Im no pool expert and didnt know a thing about pools until house i bought came with one and i replaced everything but the walls of the pool so treat my advice with caution If you are replacing liner next year i probably wouldnt worry about it. They will add more vermiculite and smooth everything out anyway. Left it empty for a few yeas and had grass growing out of it but after few hours this is how it ended up. Think you should be fine.

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My liner developed a leak and I really don't want to put in a new one only to close the pool a week later.

Any danger to waiting until next spring to do it? Base is vermiculite/cement.
Tim, call a diver, he will come out, find a leak and fix it right under the water without draining anything... I think they charge in the neighborhood of $200 or something like that.
Someone told me they just had this done, I'm trying to think who it was, everyone I know has a pool. If it comes to me I'll get you the number or try Google it "liner pool repair and diving services NJ" I'm sure you will find someone in your area.

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Tim, call a diver, he will come out, find a leak and fix it right under the water without draining anything... I think they charge in the neighborhood of $200 or something like that.
Someone told me they just had this done, I'm trying to think who it was, everyone I know has a pool. If it comes to me I'll get you the number or try Google it "liner pool repair and diving services NJ" I'm sure you will find someone in your area.

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Thats pretty much what my guy locally wanted when i first had issues. 200-300. Guess piece of mind all winter is worth that alone now that i think about it.
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Thats pretty much what my guy locally wanted when i first had issues. 200-300. Guess piece of mind all winter is worth that alone now that i think about it.
This guys are in and out, definitely worth it if the liner is still in decent shape, to get a new one I would assume its a grand or two depending on the pool.
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This guys are in and out, definitely worth it if the liner is still in decent shape, to get a new one I would assume its a grand or two depending on the pool.
Not to mention cost of water to refill... We worked for a client who I think said it was around $5,000 turn key to re-do his liner. They used the fire hydrant to fill it but some weird thing about that made it cost more cause of the side of the street he was on or something.
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Not to mention cost of water to refill... We worked for a client who I think said it was around $5,000 turn key to re-do his liner. They used the fire hydrant to fill it but some weird thing about that made it cost more cause of the side of the street he was on or something.
I have a 16x36 add exactly what I paid Water trucks were 800 for two loads
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I have a 16x36 add exactly what I paid Water trucks were 800 for two loads
If my memory is correct, he said the water cost was around 3k. Sounds like a water truck is much cheaper than fire hydrant. Maybe he had a reason though...
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The liner was already having "issues" so I don't plan on saving it.

I filled the pool with my hose. Took an entire day from what I remember.
Had a vacuum running at each end.

Mine is 16x32 sport pool or bow tie pool. It is 6' deep in the middle and the ends are the shallow points (42"). It is designed for laps. That was what the wife wanted so, you know what that means. She's happy doing her laps, me....as my grandson says, "Pops swims like a rock"
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Few years ago I had a tiny hole in my liner also
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Letting a cement / vermiculite bottom winter over with less than 12" of water on the shallow end floor, will likely add 4 to 5 grand to the replacement cost. There is no rebar or steel in in vermiculite or 3 to1 mix subbase, they shatter, shift or turn to mush without water weight.

Not to mention 8lbs per gallon giving the walls lateral support.. If the walls slip, it's time to dig up perimeter & pull them true.

If $ allows replace prior to winter, if not have it patched. Don't leak during a northeast winter.
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Letting a cement / vermiculite bottom winter over with less than 12" of water on the shallow end floor, will likely add 4 to 5 grand to the replacement cost. There is no rebar or steel in in vermiculite or 3 to1 mix subbase, they shatter, shift or turn to mush without water weight.

Not to mention 8lbs per gallon giving the walls lateral support.. If the walls slip, it's time to dig up perimeter & pull them true.

If $ allows replace prior to winter, if not have it patched. Don't leak during a northeast winter.
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That was my concern. If water against the base would harm it.

The pool is still full, just that there is water behind the liner now and it caused the corners to float out. I would not drain the pool down for fear the water table rising in the winter and pushing up the base, not to mention the freeze thaw damage.

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Few years ago I had a tiny hole in my liner also
How long did it sit??
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How long did it sit??
Couple years. One if the walls collapsed while was empty so ended up being a bit more than just a liner replacement 7 years after new liner it still looks great
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