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Old 03-05-2011, 12:03 AM   #21
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Essentially every u.s. commercial job is waterproof with hydro ban, all the pools and saunas and what have you.
I don't know if I would go that far, several other makers of like products would surely get a laugh from that statement.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:24 AM   #22
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the biggest thing between the liquid membranes. is WARRANTY..LATICRETE has been around for over 50 years. And Henry will stand behind what they print period.


as far as simular application. yes just about the same . 90 bucks for a gallon WOW wont tell ya what it is here you will scream and throw tile at me
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I've never used Hydroban for waterproofing - I've stuck pretty much with Kerdi. ...But I've read up on Hydroban, stuff looks pretty good! Certainly a bit cheaper and faster than a Kerdi shower. I'll have to give it a shot!
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I've never used Hydroban for waterproofing - I've stuck pretty much with Kerdi. ...But I've read up on Hydroban, stuff looks pretty good! Certainly a bit cheaper and faster than a Kerdi shower. I'll have to give it a shot!
Liquids are a different beast then fabrics. When you consider time to install + materials costs, they are actually pretty close to the same overall cost.

There are pluses and minuses for both methods. It boils down to what you feel most comfortable with. Of course, availability can come into play. I can get Mapei AquaDefense about 30% cheaper than Hydro Ban. Some folks don't have a supplier that can get them Kerdi.

Whatever you decided to use, make sure you are well versed with the installation method!
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Well I have blue blood. Nothing wrong with either product. But for me the liquid is much easier to use seeing I am missing a finger on my left hand and the corners and my nub give me problems. But as ANGUS just said doesnt really matter what ya use make sure ya know what you are using and how to use it . I can give ya hydroban but it ya dont apply it right you are back to square one
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Aqua Defense will last as long as hot mopping. The thing is that people do not read the instructions. For a DIY it is easier and cheaper because no need for hot mop equipment. First apply to motar or mud not the wood. If using Aqua defense get the curbs and corners first really good before doing the rest of the job. Wait till it turns greenish(read instructions). Then finish rest of tub and remember to go up the wall hopefully on concret backing to about 3'6". Then apply second coat. If DIY continue until you use all the product you have left if not enough for next job. It will stop all water and moisture. I believe no matter what you do a vinyl sheet behind concrete backing is one of the most important for long life that most Contractors do not do.
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Hate to bring up an old thread, seems that a lot of people are still trying to get away from hot mop a method which I've always used without any issues. Also never had an issue using pvc pan liner. I'm just wondering if there have been any problems regarding Redguard shower pans? Generals keep bringing up a new roll on method and I've never heard of of anything other than hydro ban and kerd but that's new untested technology
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Aqua Defense will last as long as hot mopping. The thing is that people do not read the instructions. For a DIY it is easier and cheaper because no need for hot mop equipment. First apply to motar or mud not the wood. If using Aqua defense get the curbs and corners first really good before doing the rest of the job. Wait till it turns greenish(read instructions). Then finish rest of tub and remember to go up the wall hopefully on concret backing to about 3'6". Then apply second coat. If DIY continue until you use all the product you have left if not enough for next job. It will stop all water and moisture. I believe no matter what you do a vinyl sheet behind concrete backing is one of the most important for long life that most Contractors do not do.
No need for "vinyl" behind anything. It'll promote moisture being taped between the backer and barrier. Just WP the tile side and chive on.
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Hate to bring up an old thread, seems that a lot of people are still trying to get away from hot mop a method which I've always used without any issues. Also never had an issue using pvc pan liner. I'm just wondering if there have been any problems regarding Redguard shower pans? Generals keep bringing up a new roll on method and I've never heard of of anything other than hydro ban and kerd but that's new untested technology
I have never seen a hot mop pan. Seems to me you are creating a pool with no way for that water to get back to the drain. Unless you are hot mopping the preslope.
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I believe the hot mop is on the pre-slope, water drains back to the lower/secondary drain holes.

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That's correct both hot mop and liner have a preslope which the waterproofing membrane sits on. The issue for me is rather there are any other techniques out there that work well as a roll on material
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Howdy! Have you used or seen any of the liquid rubber products? As for me, i've used liquid rubber as material for waterproofing my shower without a curb. Btw, use this for waterproofing http://liquidrubber.ca/ it was terrible coz the biggest effort was the walls. They were drywall. So I need to remove them and replace with cement board.

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Howdy! Have you used or seen any of the liquid rubber products? As for me, i've used liquid rubber as material for waterproofing my shower without a curb. Btw, use this for waterproofing http://liquidrubber.ca/ it was terrible coz the biggest effort was the walls. They were drywall. So I need to remove them and replace with cement board.
Use Aqua Defense, RedGard or even TEC's waterproofing systems over liquid rubber.

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