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Old 02-21-2011, 09:06 PM   #1
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Ive got a question, not so much about a shower build, but shutting the water off. This is my first tear out and rebuild, so far they've all been new construction. I've got one to go bid on and Im curious how to go about dealing with the water being shut off. Its a bath/shower wall, so no pan to deal with, just the walls.

This is an older house, and it does not have a shut off at the shower, just a house shut off. Im timing the job for three days max, hopefully just two. But how do you guys go about shutting off an occupied house for two days. The homeowners arent going to like it, but I dont have a choice.
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shut off the water in the house,
cut water in bath area,
install shut off for that area,
turn water in house back on,
work on bathroom at your leisure

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Shut offs? Three days? Good luck......

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Easy, I'd have my plumber install a shut off valve.
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Shut it off long enough to rough in and cap off the lines or to add some valves that allow you turn off the supply to the shower.

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Shut off the main and cut your supply lines and add some ball valves or your shower valve should have shutoffs on it... you can buy them that way.
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Sebastien beat me by one minute.
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The shower valves I deal with have a built in shut off right on the valve.

Turn water off, install new valve, have valve shut offs...off, turn water to house back on. Install capped stubs for shower head and tub spigot. When time to install final fixtures, remove shower valve stub (save for future use) and cut cap off tub spigot. Install finish plumbing, turn on valve shut offs.

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Or what everyone else has just said in the previous 3 minutes
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In the right situation I can move really quick and accurate to do a swanstone tub replacement with walls and valve in a day...but usually 2 or 3 days... I honestly don't see how your gonna do this in 2 if your tiling, good luck!
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these are the shark-bite caps, they are super easy and fast to use, just slip them on and work away. when you are ready to deal with that pipe shut the main water off and slip off the cap and go.

best part about it is the cap is reusable

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Easy, I'd have my plumber install a shut off valve.
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shut off the water in the house,
cut water in bath area,
install shut off for that area,
turn water in house back on,
work on bathroom at your leisure
I dont think the plumber will be an option. I've tried talking them into it but they're selling the house and want to put as little as possible into it.


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these are the shark-bite caps, they are super easy and fast to use, just slip them on and work away. when you are ready to deal with that pipe shut the main water off and slip off the cap and go.

best part about it is the cap is reusable

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Thank You! Thats exactly what I need! Did not know about these, but thats perfect. Awesome.
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I would make sure those quick connects are acceptable for this scenario.

Some plumbers are not a fan of those. What if the seal blows out in a few years?
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I would make sure those quick connects are acceptable for this scenario.

Some plumbers are not a fan of those. What if the seal blows out in a few years?
what if a joint isnt soldered all the way and it fails in a few years, what if someone drives a screw through a pipe during a future renovation.


what if a pex connector isnt crimped all the way..............
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Gonna be tough to do that job in two days without a plumber. The fact that you never heard of a sharkbite, nor had any idea how to bypass the water tells me you are gonna be on the plumbing for a while. Not sure what your daily rate is, but a plumber would be in and out in a jiffy!
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I dont think the plumber will be an option. I've tried talking them into it but they're selling the house and want to put as little as possible into it.

Thank You! Thats exactly what I need! Did not know about these, but thats perfect. Awesome.
For all that, shut the water off once and use the Sharkbite Ball Valves....
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dont know if this is available by you but you can use it as well same type of system

http://www.dahlvalve.com/products/quickgrip.aspx



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what if a joint isnt soldered all the way and it fails in a few years, what if someone drives a screw through a pipe during a future renovation.


what if a pex connector isnt crimped all the way..............

Even a properly installed quick-connect seal can fail. Just sayin....

A plumber would (should) test his installation.

A future renovator shouldn't be a concern to the OP. However, any place where a line is run should have a screw protector installed.
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Even a properly installed quick-connect seal can fail. Just sayin....

A plumber would (should) test his installation.

A future renovator shouldn't be a concern to the OP. However, any place where a line is run should have a screw protector installed.






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Just my opinion, but I tell the HO what's needed, not the other way around. If I need plumbing done, the plumber comes. Period.

I won't do plumbing due to the liability issues.

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