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Old 12-02-2007, 08:04 PM   #41
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I give ikea credit for not having stuff made in China. Or maybe they do. But most of the stuff I see is made in France, Slovenia, Ukraine...
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:35 PM   #42
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Yeah, I actually went to Ikea (what a nightmare, worse than the mall at Christmas and I couldn't find my way out if there was a fire, frickin maze) and the cabinets they had up to look at didn't look that good.

You can tell they didn't have pros put these up because fillers were the wrong size, lot's of the iron on pieces weren't perfect so you could see white underneath the edges. You could tell lots of people had been messing with them as well.

Over all I wasn't that impressed with the displays at the store plus I had a strong urge to run outta the place so I didn't stay that long.

The two kitchens I saw were done by a pro and they were much better.

Send_it_all: Do you know what's bad about the construction? Are they particle board? Could they handle a 3 cm slab of stacked granite?
Yes, they are particle board. That isn't what is bad about them..particle board is strong enough. I just dont like the fact that they are knockdown and not glued. The kitchen I installed got 3 cm granite put on it, so I guess it will hold it. Actually, the HO sold the place less than a year after I remodeled it, so I am just assuming they held up to the granite.
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I've installed two Ikea kitchens and my feeling is basically, you get what you pay for. I will still do it, and the GC I am working for has ordered them for the current $620k condo unit... with granite on top.

Faces are nice, but particle board is still just glued-up sawdust. And cast cams are weak and break occasionally. You also get exactly as many little screws and pins and cams as you need. If you lose one in some sawdust somewhere, you're out of luck. And the damn instructions - if you ever look at them. Marshmallow puff cartoon characters and the only words are "Snap!" and "Pop!"

What the hell.

Another case of economics ruling over aesthetics.
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I'm glad to see others bring up the fact that the stuff is knock down construction and it's an issue. For a while reading this thread was making me think I was entering into the twilight zone.

Are there really people in our trades that don't undestand what knock down construction means? Mills Pride = knock down. IKEA = Mill Pride. I don't care how pretty they look. Knock down is knock down construction.

I heard there is a new deck coming out from IKEA it's all knock down construction. If you see the obvious issues with that joke, how do you not understand they aren't any different in a kitchen?

I think a few people have even used the excuse about some freaken flip show they saw them on or something like that. What more would you need to know?
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One thing I've noticed reading these is no one who has actually put them up or had any real experience with them is saying bad things, only those of us who are new to the product and judging it on name or potential construction only.
Here is my 2 cents. You are right, guys like us know quality, and know that most of the stuff at Ikea is crap. The average HO on the other hand, thinks Ikea stuff is the "bees knees" and love it. They usually don't know or care that flat-packed (knock down) particleboard is inferior.

I helped a friend install an Ikea kitchen, when it was done I was quite surprised with how slick it looked. You'd never know it was an Ikea kitchen. However, i did tell him to glue EVERYTHING as we assembled the cabinets. In fact, I think thats the only down side to using them and why I wouldn't want to. The money you save will be spent in assembling the darn things. It took about 3 days to put them all together. Not just the boxes, but all the drawers too!! What a PITA!

Wackman, It sounds like you haven't been to an Ikea store lately? You should take a visit. They have several full kitchens set up to you can see the finished product. And if you want to see how they stand up to abuse, just imagine all those customers walking by kicking them and slamming the drawers. That should give you an idea.

By the way. I am also considering offering Ikea cabinets and here is the coolest thing about them. They have a free online kitchen design program you can use to layout the cabinets. You can link to it here... http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/complet...ool/index.html

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.... The cabinets are held together by cam-locks.

There is not a drop of glue to be found.

I always glue everything I buy from Ikea, weather it says to or not... the cam locks are just there to hold it until the glue dries

.... Sometimes I even use a nailgun, which isn't supplied in the packaging.
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Absolutely, I WILL NOT be going back to the store if I buy any of their stuff. What happened to normal aisles where you can just walk directly to what you want?

If you want dishes you need to walk through the whole frickin store on the dang yellow brick road to eventually get there! Isn't there some kind of fire code for situations like this?

Made me want to get a shopping cart with a cow catcher at the front and just push my way through.

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Wack, You are right... IKEA is CRAZY.. But there is a trick to navigating the store. They do have "shortcuts" that let you cut through parts of the store, they are marked with little signs. You can't just follow the herd, you need total focus when you shop there.
My wife likes all the little 'chachkies' they have, candles, picture frames, etc... It's a 30 minute trip if you don't know what your doing, but I got it down to 5... up the escalator to the second floor, immediate left through the short cut to the stairs, back downstairs to the lighting section, through another shortcut near the rugs and curtains to the home decor section, cut though another shortcut to the check out.
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I give ikea credit for not having stuff made in China. Or maybe they do. But most of the stuff I see is made in France, Slovenia, Ukraine...

Erm actuall they do manufacture in China................ Sorry
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Wack I own a couple of rental properties and have to repleace kitchens every now and then. I did my first Ikea install a few months ago and I would now not use any other. They are cheap to buy, look good and modern.

But dont forget any kitchen is only as good as the installer.
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No f***ing way. Turn cam construction? No Way. I can just see somebody putting $12,000 worth of granite ontop of $1000 worth of turn cam cabinets. I'd take your phone off the hook for awhile after that installation.
Well, as one who regularly installs these cabinets, I have yet to have them fail, or to have someone call us to complain about their cabinet construction quality.

While I concur that they don't seem to be "high end" at face value, they CERTAINLY hold up BETTER than most of the so called quality cabinets we have installed from places like Home Dep*t.

Here's a thought from a long time professional installer of Kitchens.

I would place Ikea quality (if correctly assembled and installed) above about 50% of what you can get from the big box stores.

Here's a second thought about Ikea cabinets.

The average cabinet warranty we get in the US is around 1 - 2 years. Ikea warranty their cabinets for 25 years.

So, when you be-raid the "quality" of Ikea, perhaps it would be good to share what you are comparing the quality to... a Lexus?
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I've installed a few and I don't mind them. For the price, there are a lot worse cabinets out there, and I think they make for a nice finished kitchen within a certain budget. I like the butcher block countertops, as well IKEA kitchens are pretty easy to put together and install.

When I redid my place, I did it on a limited budget and went with ikea cabinets and their butcher block countertop, it's been a few years and is still a great kitchen. If you use your head and install it properly and secure I don't think you'd have any failure issues, i've never heard of it happening.
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Ikea-Denver welcome and this thread just got interesting .


As an aside fillers? what do you guys mean by kitchen fillers?
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I assume they are talking about the end filler pieces that cover up the exposed cabinet ends, where they hang off the rail. I've bought sheets of the stuff and cut to size for a nice finished end or a exposed island, put on the back of the cabinets.
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Has anyone thought of finding a local cabnet shop that will take care of them, and sellling quality,
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I did my place with Ikea kitchen cabinets five years ago. I would have loved to use higher end stuff, but we were just married and had one on the way, so custom was not in the budget. Since then they have stood up to a busy kitchen and three kids and I have no real complaints. We got a decent looking set of cabinets for a relative bargain. They look more expensive than they are and are light years beyond the late '60s vintage knotty pine cabinets our place came with.

Like some other folks have mentioned above you should glue them rather than rely on the cam-locks. Beyond that they are OK. Not great but certainly not as bad as some make them out to be.

One of the things I do like about them is you can buy new doors and give your kitchen a face lift in like 30 minutes. The boxes come in standard sizes, the hinges have not changed in like forever and they regularly update their finishes.
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Just so everyone knows, this thread is from 2007.
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On another note, my buddy has a cabinet shop and Ikea does not bother him in the least. He cannot approach Ikea's price for a kitchen and would not want to. He operates in an entirely different market. His clients would never consider Ikea cabinets, and vice versa.
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All I know is Ikea light fixtures are the worst. Most do not come with mounting hardware and they use screws and nuts that are neither standard nor metric. And they always have weird, made up Scandinavian names like Faart and kweef.
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Just so everyone knows, this thread is from 2007.
Folks are often times critisized on this site for starting a new thread and not using the "search" function. Then, when one actually DOES use the search function, finds a topic or thread they're interested in and post a comment reviving the thread.... there are comments like this saying basically; "this is OLD news folks." - Or whatever other similar meaning is behind this post.

Not trying to cause or start any trouble, I'm just uncertain what the regulars want and expect of us newer members with regard to asking questions here.


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