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Old 07-12-2006, 07:31 PM   #1
 
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I have a couple of bathrooms I am working on. When I got into the walls I found a nightmare of work ahead of me. It seems that the "old school" way of laying tile is different from what I would have done.
It is a metal netting on the studs, followed by thin set (I belive), then tiles on that. It has been here since the house was built in the 60's. There was nothing wrong with it at all. The homeowner just wanted to update the house to turn around and sell it. Does anyone still do it this way and WHY?

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Old 07-12-2006, 08:07 PM   #2
 
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Those are mud walls, know a few who still do it, if good at it, you get a perfectly plumb and flat surface for the tile, with all the new backerboards out there and waterproofing membranes, it's a dying art.

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I have a couple of bathrooms I am working on. When I got into the walls I found a nightmare of work ahead of me. It seems that the "old school" way of laying tile is different from what I would have done.
It is a metal netting on the studs, followed by thin set (I belive), then tiles on that. It has been here since the house was built in the 60's. There was nothing wrong with it at all. The homeowner just wanted to update the house to turn around and sell it. Does anyone still do it this way and WHY?

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Thats old school. I have torn out a s%#t load of that stuff. Thats the way my grandfather used to do it back in the 50's and 60's when you really had to know what you were doing.

Wait till you tear out a 35 year old tile shower and find a lead blanket when you jackhammer the mud bed out.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:55 PM   #4
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Wait until you go to redo a second floor bath and find a lead pan under the entire bathroom. Now that is old school anal-retentive.
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Yah, looks like mud.
But that looks like a thin mud coat and usually we dont see lathe that small. And there appears to be no water proof or membrane behind it, which I usually see. Almost everything we tear out thats 20 years or older is mudded. Floors, bathroom surrounds, and alot of counter tops. We still mud large, uneven spaces like kitchens when theyre gutted for a full remodel.
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its lath and mud.
I know a few who still do it
It costs more for homeowner and is time consuming for contractor.

Just look at showerpans. I haven't seen a mud pan done for under $1,000.
You can buy the whole Schluter "Kerdi" shower system for $700.

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I still see carpenters cutting dovetails with chisels. The old school guys.
But they do have routers now.
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Actually....it's plaster and lathe... all be it metal lathe....it's what replaced the old wood lathe...modernizing in the 40's and 50's!!....the plaster is a 3 coat system similiar to stucco..scratch coat, brown coat, finish coat...and yes it took some skill...and the 1st 2 coats are actually mortar based.

the mud job is a different animal all-together....mud jobs are for floors only..no walls ......metal lathe over substrate....mortar mixed very dry...then screeded out in a tapered fashion to the shower drain...or flat for a floor.. it made for a great base for setting tile, which was set with a mortar...

Geoff

anyone notice the galvy plumbing? I doubt this house is from the 60's, gotta be older than that, but then again depends on where it is...small towns tended to stick with older methods longer.

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