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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
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No one asked about water management of any saw. I never brought up purchasing the same saw I own was better than any trolley saw. I'm not sure why but you thought it was necessary to bring up a single aspect of the saw I own. I mean why not compare and contrast more features? I dunno why it became a topic. But the way you went around it reminded me of if you suggested a restaurant that you had years of good experience with to someone and they went there and had 1 plate they thought was awful. Does that mean that restaurant always serves awful food? Does that mean the person with plenty of positive experiences doesn't know what good food is? Does that mean the person with the bad experience didn't give the restaurant a chance? I'm no genius but I'm not an idiot either. I've used lots of wet tile saws and I've cut many different kinds of tile. The Imer I own does not have what I'd describe as anywhere near awful water management. Maybe from the 6-ish tiles you cut on it that's your opinion but it feels highly suspicious that my opinion and even that of someone else that owns the same saw differ vastly from yours. We all know you're a person with your own opinions and you'll state them regardless of what's average, popular or most common. I expect nothing less from you. But sorry to say, in this one instance, I think you are wrong for sticking to your guns. It actually surprises me you'd let such little usage be translated into such a negative review. If I felt your review was remotely close to my experiences with it, I wouldn't have blinked at the comment. However, because I totally disagree with the review, I felt it was worth the typing to contradict. Hell, if you want to compare more pros and cons, that's fine but I think the tool is much too good to let it go.
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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
Does moisture absorb into the concrete? If not and it just beads, you shouldn't tile directly over it.
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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
I ended up grinding the piss out of it and problem was solved thanks
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Fwiw, I'm just getting into tile. There's so much to learn and learning from other's is proving rather difficult because if you ask ten people who do quality tile work for advice on a particular project, you'll get ten different answers. It's weird in that respect.
Angus, this saw situation is just an example. If I asked for advice, I'd get so many different answers. I have a lot of respect you and Rob. I did a lot of research before purchasing my saw. The DeWalt and Ridgid seemed to be the front runners for under $1,000. The DeWalt seemed to be the winner of those two. I see your point in the rail saw's pros, and I understand what Rob is saying too. However, water management is very important for me at this point. If I continue to improve, I could see me purchasing a rail saw in the future. I think I'd have the best of both worlds. Also, someone mentioned using the HO's assistance when cutting the long pieces of curb; but I learned very early in my career never to allow the HO to help me do the work they are paying me to do. I know there's always exceptions to the rule. But, to me, not that rule. If I need help, i'll bring a helper. The HO can enjoy his/her day, I'm fine.
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I can tell you your few tiles were not enough experience to make an educated review either way. Would you spend $1000 on a tool you barely used once at someone elses jobsite? You didn't inflate your experience but you sure jumped to a pretty quick conclusion about it. A saw's ability to contain water is a mere part of it's overall abilities. For you to assume double the price should better containment is also ignoring why it is priced so. The 2 comments made about the Imer were both from guys that said they already bought something else. I'm not upset that your opinion differs. Hardly. I'm amazed you think you can make such a comment without a disclaimer of usage. You didn't state any amount of experience to give others a chance to put a priority on the comment. "Just be mindful the water management is awful on it." "For the handful of tiles I used it for, I thought the containment was not what I expected." That qualifies your experience and gives an opinion based on the limited use. Evan's comment was "a bit of water mis-management". That's a far cry from awful. Maybe you should consider telling people you haven't driven the Econoline enough to make a fair judgement on it before knocking its handling. Perhaps you're upset that someone challenged your unsolicited comment about your limited experience of a tool that the regular users of don't agree with.
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Be very glad you chose the Dewalt over the Ridgid.
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It's water management isn't one of it's glowing features. Actually, it kinda sucks.
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I just finished a floor with 14x14 porcelain tiles. The saw worked very well. There was some tear-out (not sure what it's called with tile, chipping maybe) on a few tile during the last 1/8"-1/4" of the cut, but I just slowed the speed down and it cut clean. I read that could be a blade issue. Some people loved the stock blade. Some, not so much. The T3 Razor seems to be the blade of choice. I'm new to tile like I said, so I'm trying to learn as I go, including on how quickly to push the tile through the blade to eliminate tear-out/chipping, etc. I was surprised the saw didn't have a laser. But, then again, I have several wood saws that do, and I never put trust into it.lol I appreciate your comments. Thank you.
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While I ended getting rid of my Dewalt because I thought it had a lack of accuracy, many guys do some great installs using that saw. I think every saw has its own personality that you need to learn. I know with my current saw, I like to have the part of the tile I cut to keep always on the left and the part I'm cutting off on the right of the blade. I don't know why I feel I get less chip-out that way but as long as I can make the cut in that manner, I do. I find the laser on a tile saw isn't the least bit accurate. You're better off marking your tray where the blade passes through at the point closest to your eye. You can then mark your tile on the line to cut. Align the starting point on the tile furthest from you with the actual blade. Align the closest mark to you with the line you have on your tray. Perfectly straight cut every time. I typically use the blade to mark a nick in the tray right here
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One of the things to keep in mind is the level of the issues. Water containment may legitimately be a deal breaker for some. Having one tool that will do several functions may mitigate a lot of down sides. Think of the multi master. My son who is a great helper and is starting to set tile is getting ticked at me because I am Nit picking. I was able to put it into his terms be comparing it to video games. When you are a NOOB you are happy just making the controller work. Once you get to a certain level you have honed your skills to the point where the little things are now what make the difference. This is the same for our trade , all trades to be honest. Add in that each of us have different skill sets and different business strategies and you will have a lot of variance. My goal is to become efficient enough that a 2 man crew can do what most 4 man crews get done in a week. Others want to make perfect high end stone sets. Still others want to create awesome mosaics. A lot of guys here want to be able to make tile one of their staple trades so they can specialize in Bathrooms. It is part of our journey, Things that I am spending $$$ on now most would shake their head and say why so much for that stuff while Mike would laugh and say "Give that GUY one chip" |
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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
So it kinda sucks but it's not awful. I'll agree to that.
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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
I understand the truth can hurt you. It's OK. We are here for your tile support group needs..
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Re: What Tile Project Are You Working On?
Didn't you admit that the water management sucked? The truth may have hurt but it isn't me that's hurtin'
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