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Old 09-30-2015, 11:26 AM   #1
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UGH....fresh Tile And Dry-wallers......


just venting here.

I just set about 380 sq ft of 8x36 plank on slab using rubi level system ( yes im ready for flames for using Rubi but it works for me).

floor turned out great. nice and flat ready for grout......

I come in next day to see that the dry wallers had been in over night...on the fresh tile.....the level system and spacers held the tiles in place so no shifting. I thought I was lucky!

then it happened......removing spacers, caps etc i started to notice the tiles where the dry wallers worked were hollow and loose. I had to pull about 40 tiles, scrape the slab, re-set them all.
this is the first time i have ever had a GC do this to my tiles. this is also the first time ive used a level system while people walk on wet tiles; they dont allow tiles to shift like you would expect without using it. The GC claimed that he thought they were set enough since they didnt move.....

I got T/M from contractor but jeesh.........AYFKM!?!?

just what i have time for.....
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:10 PM   #2
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T&M who cares, you get to do the job twice for twice the pay.

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Sometimes you have to be firm as a sub. Dont walk on that or I will charge the crap out of you!
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I tape and "x" across each entry way when I set or grout tile.
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yeah. im fine with T/M but the schedule getting pushed another day was the pits. my next customer pushed me for 4 days. LOL. i guess ill go fishing!
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T&M who cares, you get to do the job twice for twice the pay.
Because sometimes you don't have time in your schedule, regardless of what it pays. If you have valuable customers waiting on you, or jobs that have been scheduled for months, a screw up like that can really put you in a bind. What if you sub from a high volume source that has to pull in another crew to cover the job that you just pushed back and now you're losing jobs down the road because that source now has another sub to call on? There's a myriad of things that just throwing money at doesn't solve.
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Because sometimes you don't have time in your schedule, regardless of what it pays. If you have valuable customers waiting on you, or jobs that have been scheduled for months, a screw up like that can really put you in a bind. What if you sub from a high volume source that has to pull in another crew to cover the job that you just pushed back and now you're losing jobs down the road because that source now has another sub to call on? There's a myriad of things that just throwing money at doesn't solve.
You figure it out.

You already got paid for the first round...even if you tell them to piss up a rope and walk away you are in the same boat.
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You figure it out.

You already got paid for the first round...even if you tell them to piss up a rope and walk away you are in the same boat.
I get what you're saying - no reason to get upset about it as it doesn't change things really. Tell them you'll be back in two weeks to fix the drywall guys ****up lol. It never works out quite that way in my experience though, at least on new construction or especially commercial work. Usually someone is holding some money hostage or future work, etc. This is a whores game sometimes....
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T&M who cares, you get to do the job twice for twice the pay.
I'm glad your schedule allows for this, but mine wouldn't. So while you are compensated for your time, there is no inconvenience fee or loss of future work compensation.
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You figure it out.

You already got paid for the first round...even if you tell them to piss up a rope and walk away you are in the same boat.
Doesn't sound like the OP has a check in hand yet for either.
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Blue tape and signs go along way
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When I have time I'll come back to fix your stupidity but I have other customers waiting for me.That's just plain dumb .
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Doesn't sound like the OP has a check in hand yet for either.
Correct. I did not yet have the check for the labor yet. I do now though!

And as previously said; yes screwing up the schedule is the big gripe really. I made enough to cover the repairs plus the T/M but having to push and pull the next several weeks of work then work on weekends to recover the schedule doesn't really justify the whole issue.

it's one of those jobs that you chalk up as: its over, I dont have to go back and the check is good!

the customers' office that this was for has decided to have me remodel/tile her bathroom and sun room now. without the GC that goofed the tile. Her few employees have also inquired about doing work for them as well. If I get at least one more job out of this then its a win win all the way.
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I find caution tape is an attractant. It's like I'm daring them to walk on it.
I actually put up a sign once that said-
"THIS IS MY FLOOR UNTIL I TELL YOU ITS YOURS".

Another good sign I have used is -
"CAUTION-CORROSIVE GROUT USED. PROTECTIVE CLOTHING MUST BE WORN"

Some of the dumbest people can be found on job sites.
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As moisture leaves thinset, there is a period where it has little bond strength .

We have bright , printed signs that say DO NOT WALK IN THIS AREA UNTIL _______ and then we write in the time frame .

At the bottom is says " Thank you for helping us maintain job quality ", and my name and number .

Put backer over doors , do whatever ......still, I 've had idiots walk on wet tile ....should never happen .

What's sad is contractors not knowing enough about trades to know the normal dry time tile requires .

I'm fairly skilled, and I really like the clip and levelying systems , as long as you prep the floor and don't compromise coverage by going flatter than the substrate.

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