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Old 06-27-2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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Anybody use it? I just ordered 500 piece set.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:11 PM   #2
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Let us know how it works. My impression is that most of the systems are pretty good (except for LASH, which is useless), and most of the meaningful debates are about price. I use Tuscan, which I like, but which is relatively expensive.

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Why would you want to level a tornado?

Don't tornadoes usually do the leveling of things like High Schools and Trailer parks?


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Let us know how it works. My impression is that most of the systems are pretty good (except for LASH, which is useless), and most of the meaningful debates are about price. I use Tuscan, which I like, but which is relatively expensive.
Price is what pushed me to try these.
I'll let you know how they work.
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We used them and they are cheap and work well, but twisting the caps require pretty good finger strength, and tend to push the tiles apart. Make sure there's no thinset under the ring or the tiles can get scratched. Basically, it's a good, inexpensive system for occasional, or smaller jobs.
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I use them all the time, great for floor and wall tiles above 6x6. They do tend to push out the tile when you twist especially when starting your first tiles but once you get going and get a system down not hat big of a deal.
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I hated them. I bought a bunch of them for a big project and I was unimpressed. They couldn't be adjusted and they didn't fix lippage very well at all.

I bought the riamondi system the RLS. It is fairly inexpensive once you buy the tool and the wedges all you have to re-buy are the clips. They work AWESOME! I have been super impressed and have used them on 10 jobs or more and have already gone through probably 5000 of them. I have just rolled in the extra cost to my quotes. I figure it adds about $50 for a custom shower and $25 for the average floor.
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A link to the riamondi system, looks trick.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRnOtT7Q8v4
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I had good luck with the system... If you're going to stop for lunch or for the day do not install the clips on the last tiles... use an oscillating tool to clean out the dried thin set then continue installing tiles.
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i have never used, or know of any other tiler, that uses any sort of tile leveling system,
their must be some really crooked floors their
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i have never used, or know of any other tiler, that uses any sort of tile leveling system,
their must be some really crooked floors their
Simply another case of a different market. For about $1/foot^2, let's say 7Ä/m^2, a good general remodeler or remodeling employee can set tile as well as a dedicated tile sub. I can say from direct observation that some European tile setters could use the help.
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i have never used, or know of any other tiler, that uses any sort of tile leveling system,
their must be some really crooked floors their
Has nothing to do with the state of the floors. Leveling systems do not make up for prep work. They don't make a substrate flat. They speed up the tweaking of tiles to eliminate lippage, and keep tiles from sinking. Nothing more, nothing less.

Some "Old school" tile setters are some of the most arrogant, set in their ways, refuse to learn anything new tradesmen I've ever seen. Why do you use modified mortar. I mean sand and portland worked for the Romans a couple thousand years ago....

Pretty sure wet saws are new to the tile trade. The early Italians didn't have snap cutters or electric mixers - why do you? This mentality that anything new to you is inferior is about asinine. Grow up.
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Aren't the two big makers of leveling system based in Europe?
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like I've said, I've been working in Europe for over 20yrs. and I have never, nor Have I seen other tile setters use such devices, thats all. and as to the quality of our work. never had problems and have never have i seen a bad tile job.
they dont sell those things here.
And as for the quality of our work... bring it on babe

but now i am curious, if i can produce more for what they cost, if i can find them i will give it a shot
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Slide a quarter, or euro coin, across one of your floors, record it on video and post.
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Has nothing to do with the state of the floors. Leveling systems do not make up for prep work. They don't make a substrate flat. They speed up the tweaking of tiles to eliminate lippage, and keep tiles from sinking. Nothing more, nothing less.

Some "Old school" tile setters are some of the most arrogant, set in their ways, refuse to learn anything new tradesmen I've ever seen. Why do you use modified mortar. I mean sand and portland worked for the Romans a couple thousand years ago....

Pretty sure wet saws are new to the tile trade. The early Italians didn't have snap cutters or electric mixers - why do you? This mentality that anything new to you is inferior is about asinine. Grow up.
get over it dude, I only stated that I have never used, nor do I know of any setters that use, levelling systems.
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https://youtu.be/12z7am5Bvj4in the making.

not good at posting youtubes, but, did this 10yrs ago where i currently live, travertine 4 x 10 strips layed in sand and portland.
Its cheaper, easier, and as you mentioned time tested 1000yrs and going.
Am I arrogant? not only that but Im also an Azzhole.
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Simply another case of a different market. For about $1/foot^2, let's say 7Ä/m^2, a good general remodeler or remodeling employee can set tile as well as a dedicated tile sub. I can say from direct observation that some European tile setters could use the help.
We set from 15- 20 a meter, ($1.50 - $2.00)so tack on 50% the price and see how many bids you'll win.
You are absofukkinlutly right, different markets and all.
I'd make a killing working at your prices
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https://youtu.be/12z7am5Bvj4in the making.

not good at posting youtubes, but, did this 10yrs ago where i currently live, travertine 4 x 10 strips layed in sand and portland.
Its cheaper, easier, and as you mentioned time tested 1000yrs and going.
Am I arrogant? not only that but Im also an Azzhole.
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That was a roll, not a slide. Slide it across a floor.

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