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What's your protocall on tubs, I only use Swanstone - Veritk tubs and they specifically state that wall board has to sit on top of the lip for swan or tile installs which leaves about 1" to the tub tub lip. This is because of the self drainage feature and if a seal ever breaks the water will work its way to the cutaways on the skirt.
I'm working on an estimate and was figuring on just that, using cbu on walls with hydroban... any issues with a 1" space at the bottom of wall or I was thinking I could run it down further and use the kerdi fix...?
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Or, maybe someone can give me a tip or two on this

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did ya get any tips yet???
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No I guess stupid q. Idk, I figured i'll leave a little space for that style tub cuz they need to free float a little...was just wondering what others do.
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well i have been known the shove cotton there and tile off that. the cotton soaks up the water and allows it to drain.but regardless ya need to put spacers there of some kind and tile. i fill the tub half with water and then caulk it
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Cotton between wall board and tub lip?
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Ahh, I think I just walked past a good idea, I got a leftover kerdi curb in garage. Maybe I can rip some strips off on table saw to fill that gap some n make even to wall board...u think?
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I've actually been using a cup grinder and hitting the back of the cbu enough to allow it to hang over the lip. Then I do like Opie and fill the tub and caulk after tile. Works well for me. Takes a little practice w/ the grinder.
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well we all have our methods of mad skill..I have put cotton in walls of showers with travertine in them and laced them back to the drain before. it is a everyday practice in brick mason. old school tile had cotton in them as well.


or foam and then the cbu
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Hard to say because each situation is different. I have done with Dan said about trimming the back of the backerboard. I've dropped Kerdi over the flange and used Kerdi-Fix.

You kind of have to think on the fly. I'd say the most used method (by me) is to trim the backerboard to fit over the flange.
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Angus, You use a grinder or have you found a neater way?
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Depends what material you're using. Mostly, I use DensArmor so I just use a razor to trim.
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well haha I have used a router bosh colt to be exact to biscut notch the back lip for a tub. just notch out the board and install it
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I got one of those colts too. I'll give that a try next time. Thanks Dan.
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only if you are using densarmor...not durock
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Ripping down some foam and Kerdi-Fixing it in place sounds like the best idea to me.
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Angus,
What's your protocall on tubs, I only use Swanstone - Veritk tubs and they specifically state that wall board has to sit on top of the lip for swan or tile installs which leaves about 1" to the tub tub lip. This is because of the self drainage feature and if a seal ever breaks the water will work its way to the cutaways on the skirt.
I'm working on an estimate and was figuring on just that, using cbu on walls with hydroban... any issues with a 1" space at the bottom of wall or I was thinking I could run it down further and use the kerdi fix...?
Can you post a link, or a diagram of the installation instructions. I can't seem to find one on the web. I hate that. Reputable companies should have easy access to spec sheets and installation instructions.

On tubs with a lip, I normally bring the board (drywall in my case) to the top of the lip, and just fill the gap with thinset. I then Kerdi down to the tub and seal the Kerdi to the tub with Kerdi Fix.

I know you're planning on using Hydroban, but I would like to see a diagram of the tub in question for future reference.
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Can you post a link, or a diagram of the installation instructions. I can't seem to find one on the web. I hate that. Reputable companies should have easy access to spec sheets and installation instructions.

On tubs with a lip, I normally bring the board (drywall in my case) to the top of the lip, and just fill the gap with thinset. I then Kerdi down to the tub and seal the Kerdi to the tub with Kerdi Fix.

I know you're planning on using Hydroban, but I would like to see a diagram of the tub in question for future reference.
If im understanding this correctly, I have to chime in. Tubs move, sink, swell all according to the weight of water, the occupants, and the floor structure. No way should there be anything other than a flexible connection between the walls and tub...Dont even think about adhering tile to the tub lip, it will pop....
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It should be somewhere on www.swancorp.com but they don't have very good pictures in the manual
I mix up a full bag of thinset and spread on the floor before I set it, on a swan wall I use green board on top of the lip, but one thing u have to do is notch the dw around the clips so it doesn't push the wall board out... I have no issues with the swan walls cuz the wall is one sheet the whole way across. Typically I will add some globs of silicone along the skirt for some support but you cannot trap the clips with silicone because that is part of the process for the little bit of flex with heat...
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The pics are bad and turned out blurry, the wall prep photo was taken pretty much before I notched the greenboard around the clips and dropped it down to the top of tub lip
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