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Old 07-20-2010, 07:21 PM   #21
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oh and the other biggest challenge is getting angus to unload my tile for me... He just doesnt seem to want to do extra work
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:24 PM   #22
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Re: Tile Talk: Your Biggest Challenge


yo brian try using laticrete XLT............it will grab the mother ship and hold her there.....yeah i hate layout.Layouts is what makes or breaks the job. I just did a tub this week with a hop scotch pattern and I am now bald from pulling all my hair out. Then the HO had me chop out 8 tiles becauses of shade variation. Its tile that looks like stone. I have never in my lifee seen two trees that are the same and if i do i am buying them both and watching them till i die
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thinset ~ paste and firm ...enough that it holds the tile firm but also has flexibility to adjust for leveness...
Hey Fester J. Willingsbee, you could also try Mapei LFT. Will hold a 3'x2' piece of porcelain to a wall. Can be set at 3/4" thick
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I don,t have a problem with mixing thinset..... but it can be an issue and is crucial when installing tile- has to be the same consistency pretty much throughout the entire installation... After you have been doing this for a while you know when it's write and when its slop~ I look for a real dry peanut butter mix~ firm but with flexibility.


But I am challenged by design~ I really enjoy that aspect ~ so much that I can do....
I want to run vines and go sick on a floor/wall transition and run it up the wall with leaves or maybe flowers ~ all Mosaic work ... I am very interested in the design aspect of tile layout that is the challenge- the detail work

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hey lone make sure ya take some good pictures of the golden platter of the matter................
I'll get plenty of pics. There are no real dramatic details in the layout, but the level of difficulty is the lack of tolerance. Nothing short of perfection will suffice. More to come.....
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:42 PM   #26
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let us know on FNC......i will be there thursday the wife is having surgery so that by far is the biggest challenge this week. and i want to see angus sportin some plumbers cracks on that scooter
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I have used most if not all ~ I am a big fan of Mappie.. use it "most " of the time Angus P. Flathouser Laticrete is good ~ ....anything but low end thinset~ $12.00 a bag-thats for the ass end of your car in the winter If I can stick it to the wall and it will not slide~ thats what I am after can we get off the thinset issue and back on design~ lets go that direction.... its only product....we are craftsman.... much rather talk about that... for instance~ 16" tile in a 10 x 8 bathroom...what do you think ... and what would you tell your client?


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i just did a small bath floor with 20x20 it was 10x5.. I used the TLS and butted them tight together. The HO was scared at first now it looks like a giant slab set on the floor after its grouted
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come on Dan......... for god sakes.... lets face it..... forget about procedures and product...... not that I am saying it is not important.. because it is - but all things being even..... the chalange is to do somthing that no one else is doing .... and that is in design man...... I did a slate floor in Gowanda NY... 13" did a hop scotch pattern looks great~ client insists on the grout color ... I keep telling her.. this is not going to look good.. no " I want it bright" OK ..... I am thinking what ever... but this is not going in my portfolio..... no way- I hate it~ why the hell do you want to accent the lines... I am more into belnding than accenting .......

I took this picture after I whiped the 2nd sponge clean sweep... but the lighter area in the grout lined is the grout color... I hate it! and I am not done with her.... I want to dye the grout ....so bad...... I hat it!

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Dropping the trowel in the bucket handle side down at least once every project.


Seriously though--It's always a challenge helping the client visualize the finished product--especially at the material selection phase. I know that's a challenge for a lot of contractors because much of what I see on websites are very "safe" choices and combinations of materials.

Value engineering good design is more important than ever--even in the high end. We're doing a lot of combinations of simple materials dressed up with more expensive accents to achieve a custom look.
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When it comes to actually installing tile, my biggest challenge is mesh-backed wall tiles butted to an uneven ceiling. Actually, any wall tile to an uneven ceiling is a bitch.

But as Paul said, if given the proper time & payment, it will all be good!
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Dropping the trowel in the bucket handle side down at least once every project.
You got that right!
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Design is everything to me.... that is what excites me about my career...being able to put the scheme layout and thought into the project layout that really defines what we do.......100% !

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Taking it up to the ceiling....(if we are talking about a shower or bath..... I would rather drop it back of leaving some of tha wall exposed .... not a steam room .... totally different... but that is a buzz kill to me...

leave the wall exposure at the top ..... slightly... gives the area some dimension and style
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I think design/pattern will always be a challenge aside from grid, brick or 45 patterns. Customer requests can definitely be a struggle.

I guess I was asking about actual installation challenges.
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You wanted our opinion ~ you got mine... As far as installlation.... I have no issues ~ I am to old to wine about it.... been there...done that...... but the design aspect is a really big challenge to me and I love it!
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Matching different thicknesses of materials to one another can be quite a challenge.

Thin glass mosaic matching to 1/2" porcelain on the floor:


A lot of our projects require very precise attention to the layout of the tile as it relates to other architectural
and fixture elements in the room. At times the planning has to start at the framing stage in order for things
to come out right.

The tub end wall proportion matching and meeting the layout of the floor tile:


All of the elements of this shower had to be built to the whole piece layout of the glass tile: no cuts on the outside corners


Projects always look better, and sometimes undefinably so, when the materials are in harmony with one another--even in layout.

In contrast, here's an early project of mine that makes me cringe. The alignment of the joints on the tub deck are a mess:
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Matching different thicknesses of materials to one another can be quite a challenge.
Just finished a backsplash with 5/16" glass to 1/4" ceramic. The customer wanted the glass to protrude Since I used a Schluter profile to "cap" the ends, I couldn't do that, not to mention the outlet covers would have been a big issue.

I had to float all the 1/4" field tile to the measly 2" wide glass border. Can you say ooze?
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Chris, I'm always envious of the projects you post pics of

So spill it - How'd you get that glass and porcelain to flush out? I have ideas...
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Very nice work and desgn... that first picture~wow... stepping back to the 60's ~ holy crap... nice work Chris... but man..what where they thinking of,,,,see I Like the Mosaic - a lot,,,,, but that 60's vanity ~ ahhhh..... the last slate picture I LOVE IT!!!!!! Slate! very nice!!!
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