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Old 03-19-2011, 10:27 AM   #1
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Some Install Questions On $ 27. Sq Ft Tile Backsplash


I am a carpenter not tile guy and have installed tiles before, but have no experience with this small tile, glass, and foil back.
I have a 30 sq ft tile job to do as Kitchen counter backsplash.
Tile is 1/2" X 1/2" on 12 " sq sheet with foil back, mixed glass and tumbled marble. cost $ 27. sq ft, client supplied.

Does foil remain on back? which size trowel if yes and which if no ?
Store is supplying Tec double duty adhesive, is this right for the job?
And if not whats your recomendation and why?

With tiles that small I should be able to make layout work, Should ?
Is a wet saw usable on tiles this small and glass ? and should I have it on site in case ?
There are 4 outlets to cut around, Nippers ok on this small glass and marble? is carbide needed? I'm listening for cutting advice.

This tile sits on 4" stone backsplash, caulk or grout at bottom?

I know there are some good and experienced tile guys here, so I thank you in advance for your help.

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Old 03-19-2011, 10:37 AM   #2
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This is when being an actual tile guy would be very helpful.

I'm going to give you the best advice possible.....call the tile manufacturer and ask for their specifications for installing the tile. Don't let the HO tell you want to use. By all means, don't let the tile store tell you what to use. This can become a very expensive eff-up if you're not careful.

Whether a wet or dry saw/grinder is used to cut, the blade should be specific for cutting glass. I doubt nippers will work. You need to score/snap if anything.

You're on your own for the layout.

ALWAYS caulk change of plane locations and between dissimilar materials.

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No offense to you, but this isn't really the best tile job to cut your teeth on.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:45 AM   #4
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sounds like a good job for the new LATICRETE thinset designed for glass tile. I have to agree maybe having a tile guy come in and do the splash would save you time and a headache.


But I am not perfect myself. Although I do know alot and have a GC lic. I know when its time to get a better brain on the scene.


a picture of the tile purchased would help alot as well
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No offense to you, but this isn't really the best tile job to cut your teeth on.
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I'm agreeing with you. $27/ft tile is no where to start learning.
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Like Angus said speak with manufactures, some of the mesh glue is soluble in water so first cut with the wet saw and you have a Mosaic to put back together.
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Like Angus said speak with manufactures, some of the mesh glue is soluble in water so first cut with the wet saw and you have a Mosaic to put back together.
Learned that the hard way once.
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me too, ya never forget the expensive lessons
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This is when being an actual tile guy would be very helpful.

I'm going to give you the best advice possible.....call the tile manufacturer and ask for their specifications for installing the tile. Don't let the HO tell you want to use. By all means, don't let the tile store tell you what to use. This can become a very expensive eff-up if you're not careful.

Whether a wet or dry saw/grinder is used to cut, the blade should be specific for cutting glass. I doubt nippers will work. You need to score/snap if anything.

You're on your own for the layout.

ALWAYS caulk change of plane locations and between dissimilar materials.
Yep!
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No offense. But if you're asking all of these questions, it really means you shouldn't be doing this job.

From a financial point of view. Lets say you manage to wing your way through the job and the customer is not happy with how it comes out. At $27 a square foot, that's at least $825 (with tax) that you're going to have to cough up, not to mention all the lost time. Cost for tear out etc.

It would make more fiscal sense to maybe sub it out to a professional tiler or even refer it to a tiler and take a referral fee or something.

If you decide to do it, then best of luck and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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I would back out of this install and if the client wants you to go all in I suggest you set three square feet and grout it for her as a sample.

Don't prep the sample in your shop set it in place with another backer board tacked on in front of the permanent backsplash.

These tiny tiles are hard to set well and hard to get the air bubbles and such perfect.

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