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Old 05-09-2015, 12:27 PM   #1
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Has anyone worked with one of these plastic niches? Do you have to use a certain type of thinset with it? I have time to change it if it's a pain to use. The customer picked it up. [
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:39 PM   #2
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Yes, I've used them Duk Liner specifically. Nothing special. I used liquid membrane to wrap from CBU into liner. Modified thinset to adhere tiles.

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That's the first premade niche I've seen that is more than 12" tall, which is great for Costco sized shampoo
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Has anyone worked with one of these plastic niches? Do you have to use a certain type of thinset with it? I have time to change it if it's a pain to use. The customer picked it up. [
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Got a brand name? I think there is one prefab plastic niche out there that requires epoxy thinset to adhere to. If that is one of those, get a Noble Niche.

http://noblecompany.com/products/noble-niches
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Duk Liner

http://www.barwalt.com/products/accessories/duk-liners/
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That looks different than the one in the OP.

"All you have to do is add nailing blocks, overlay the moisture barrier, install mortar/backerboard and apply anti-fracture waterporrfing membrane and it's ready to tile!"

That's all you have to do? Lol. Might as well build your own.
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If that's one from "the tile shop", they bite because the back can deform, warp and bow out...after you start working with it. I had a bad experience and will never use a hard plastic one again. (I think it is one from them, too...different sizes have different colors over there...at least they did)
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If that's one from "the tile shop"
For $55, yeah building your own is the way to go

http://www.tileshop.com/product/pro+...e=&from=Search

Looks identical to the Duk Liner. Pre-drilled holes aren't as prominent.
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Got a brand name? I think there is one prefab plastic niche out there that requires epoxy thinset to adhere to. If that is one of those, get a Noble Niche.



http://noblecompany.com/products/noble-niches

I'll ask the customer. I didn't see anything on it. I normally frame my own. This looks simple enough. My biggest worry was bonding issues.
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If that's one from "the tile shop", they bite because the back can deform, warp and bow out...after you start working with it. I had a bad experience and will never use a hard plastic one again. (I think it is one from them, too...different sizes have different colors over there...at least they did)

I'm pretty sure that's where it's from.
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She wants it in an exterior wall. My guess is that's going to be a big issue if it's warping in a normal install.
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If that's one from "the tile shop", they bite because the back can deform, warp and bow out...after you start working with it. I had a bad experience and will never use a hard plastic one again. (I think it is one from them, too...different sizes have different colors over there...at least they did)

The tile shop ones they guys will tell you have to lay a sheet of CBU on the back of it
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She wants it in an exterior wall. My guess is that's going to be a big issue if it's warping in a normal install.
2x6 Wall - No problem insulate behind it
2x4 Wall - IMO should never have a recessed niche on it
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For $55, yeah building your own is the way to go
The point is, with the amount of prep required for the duk liner, what time are you really saving? With Noble and/or Kerdi niche, you pop it in and go. What's the point of a prefab niche if you still have to install blocking, CBU, and waterproof it?
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The point is, with the amount of prep required for the duk liner, what time are you really saving? With Noble and/or Kerdi niche, you pop it in and go. What's the point of a prefab niche if you still have to install blocking, CBU, and waterproof it?
There isn't one.
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The point is, with the amount of prep required for the duk liner, what time are you really saving? With Noble and/or Kerdi niche, you pop it in and go. What's the point of a prefab niche if you still have to install blocking, CBU, and waterproof it?
Well I can't speak for the Tile Shop stuff but the Duk Liner instructions are similar but I think you misunderstood some.

You install the plastic niche directly to studs. You might have to add blocking to align properly but it's not necessary if you fit between 2 regular 16"OC studs. The CBU overlaps the plastic. Just cut CBU to fit the opening. And finally, you don't waterproof the entire niche, just the seam between the plastic and CBU.

But I still won't use them anymore. I also did one (actually 3 in same bath) that the HO bought.
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There isn't one.
There isn't one what?
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If the thing seems more dimensionally stable, sure, go for it. But the tile shop one will give you problems. It would be about as enjoyable as buying a pair of pliers from a dollar store and dealing with the headache.

Also, I recall that the tileshop one has a thick flange so you can't overlap the CBU without messing around with the studs.

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Also, I recall that the tileshop one has a thick flange so you can't overlap the CBU without messing around with the studs.

Its setup to split the standard stud bay - half on the stud the other half of the stud is there for CBU so the face of the niche sits flush with the CBU and you can tape, seam, waterproof.

That said I build all mine - I don't like being stuck to one size and adjust mine based on tile dimensions and layout.

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