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Old 10-21-2016, 02:45 PM   #1
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Good day,

I will be picking up my ceramic wall and floor tiles today to begin my shower. I have installed Denshild board with two coats of redguard as waterproofing. My question is what thinset is required for installing tile over top of Redguard?

I have heard both modified and unmodified.

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Good day,

I will be picking up my ceramic wall and floor tiles today to begin my shower. I have installed Denshild board with two coats of redguard as waterproofing. My question is what thinset is required for installing tile over top of Redguard?

I have heard both modified and unmodified.

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Why did you redgard denshield?

You use modified mortar over a topical membrane.
I would suggest hiring a tile setter, tiling isn't easy and most people cannot do it the correct way.
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I chose to use denssheild and red guard in replacement of the Schulter-Kerdi Board system. The red guard was applied as an extra layer of water proofing protection.

As for setting the tiles, I proficient experience in hardwood flooring, finishing carpentry and light masonry work.

As there was no direction on the red guard pale as to what thin set use, I figured I would inquire.


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As for setting the tiles, I proficient experience in hardwood flooring, finishing carpentry and light masonry work.
Alrighty then, carry on! Sounds like a winning trifecta to me.
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Good day,

I will be picking up my ceramic wall and floor tiles today to begin my shower. I have installed Denshild board with two coats of redguard as waterproofing. My question is what thinset is required for installing tile over top of Redguard?

I have heard both modified and unmodified.

many thanks!
Modified,,,,if you can do all the things you said, you should have no trouble. Get tech, info from the manufacturer. Good luck....
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I hope you put tar paper behind the denshield
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Modified thin set.
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Epoxy.
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That would be minimum code.
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Modified,,,,if you can do all the things you said, you should have no trouble. Get tech, info from the manufacturer. Good luck....
How would any of those things he listed mean he should have "no trouble" setting tile. He doesn't even know what thinset to use over his waterproofing. I wish I had known that before finding a few mentors to help me, studying the TNCA Handbook, NTCA Reference manual and attending training from manufacturers and vendors.

Here's what I can tell you. Setting tile properly isn't easy and no carpentry or light masonry work will help you in the details and specifics. It may help a bit in layout and some general skills, but by no means does it mean you will have no trouble.

What's recommended coverage for thinset in a wet area? What direction should he trowel? Do you recommend back buttering? Do recommend wiping the kiln release agent from the tiles before setting? How big are the tiles? Do you know what qualifies a tile as large format? Do you just install large format tiles with modified, not a LFT thinset? Do you recommend mixing the thinset per the manufacturers directions? If so, does that mean you know what slaking is and why it's so important?
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I chose to use denssheild and red guard in replacement of the Schulter-Kerdi Board system. The red guard was applied as an extra layer of water proofing protection.

As for setting the tiles, I proficient experience in hardwood flooring, finishing carpentry and light masonry work.

As there was no direction on the red guard pale as to what thin set use, I figured I would inquire.


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How, by any stretch of the imagination ,do his qualifications even possibly come close to make him proficient at setting tile??

I guess all those trips to Laticrete in Bethany I made was for the free food.


I replaced a toilet once,that must mean I'm a plumber. Think I want to pipe a house.
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TNT,

I cannot begin to explain my appreciation for how helpful you have been on this topic. Without your criticizing remarks and years of knowledge passed down through your responses, I would have almost tried to attempt tiling my very own shower.

This is Contractor Talk. I am a carpenter by trade, but am now a commercial site supervisor. I am not looking for advice to go about stealing work from you, or ripping off a client. I am asking a simple question on a professional forum regarding product specifications.

I do hope you have more to live for than setting tile and casting your judgement on complete strangers over an Internet forum.

I will now call a tile guy from the phone book instead of attempting a new skill. I surely want to leave it to the pro's, and not attempt to try anything inside of my own home.

Enjoy your evening and keep up the positive posts.
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Why do people leave out the good stuff about a project in the original post??
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Why do people leave out the good stuff about a project in the original post??
Evan,

You're right. I should have clarified this in the original post. This is for my own shower. As you'll be able to tell in my post count, I am very inactive on this forum and should have broken down the project previously,

Thanks again for the help.
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TNT,

I cannot begin to explain my appreciation for how helpful you have been on this topic. Without your criticizing remarks and years of knowledge passed down through your responses, I would have almost tried to attempt tiling my very own shower.

I would suggest dropping the skirt and purse first.

This is Contractor Talk. I am a carpenter by trade, but am now a commercial site supervisor. I am not looking for advice to go about stealing work from you, or ripping off a client. I am asking a simple question on a professional forum regarding product specifications.

Trust me, I am not afraid of you stealing anything from me. Even if you were in my town, you wouldn't even come close to being able to touch the clientele I have.

I do hope you have more to live for than setting tile and casting your judgement on complete strangers over an Internet forum.

I take my craft seriously, if that is a crime or some kind of insult in your world, no wonder you became a supervisor. Some can hack it and some are just hacks.

I will add, aren't you just making an judgement about me over an Internet forum? See how that works. I am not allowed to have an opinion or make a judgement about someone by what they post but you can about me. Now that's funny.


I will now call a tile guy from the phone book instead of attempting a new skill. I surely want to leave it to the pro's, and not attempt to try anything inside of my own home.

You don't attempt a new skill, you spend time and money acquiring it over many years, not by asking questions on the internet or watching YouTube videos.

Enjoy your evening and keep up the positive posts.
Don't care to be positive when someone is hacking it up, whether it's their own shower or not. This is an public forum. That means anyone can find these threads.

They have DIY forums for working on your own home.
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