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Old 12-11-2014, 02:57 PM   #101
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He does install tile. He's very knowledgeable.

He wasn't 100% one way or the other. He basically said that a snapper will not replace a saw. Every tile is different and will react different with a snapper: some will snap clean, others will chip, etc. The quality of the snapper matters, but so does the tile type. But he's overall opinion on snappers was no where near similar to the opinions on here.

It appears, that the ideal set up is too have both the saw and snapper.
I used to scoff at snappers - thought it was old school. Silly me. Now I know better.

A few years ago I had occasion to sub a ceramic bathroom floor with mid-sized squared, diagonal pattern, and I couldn't believe how fast the old guy had that thing down. He had to hand grind a few, but piece of cake. Brought all his tools inside in one trip from the van, as I recall.
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He does install tile. He's very knowledgeable.

He wasn't 100% one way or the other. He basically said that a snapper will not replace a saw. Every tile is different and will react different with a snapper: some will snap clean, others will chip, etc. The quality of the snapper matters, but so does the tile type. But he's overall opinion on snappers was no where near similar to the opinions on here.

It appears, that the ideal set up is too have both the saw and snapper.
I have the Rubi TRS700. I've been able to do some jobs with just it and a grinder with no problem, but have also had tile I just couldn't cut worth a damn with the snapper (some porcelain from Lowes was one), but I also have the Dewalt tile saw so I'd agree that it's good to own both.
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He does install tile. He's very knowledgeable.

He wasn't 100% one way or the other. He basically said that a snapper will not replace a saw. Every tile is different and will react different with a snapper: some will snap clean, others will chip, etc. The quality of the snapper matters, but so does the tile type. But he's overall opinion on snappers was no where near similar to the opinions on here.

It appears, that the ideal set up is too have both the saw and snapper.
Your going to get some marble that will crack just by picking it up, you are going to get some lumpy stone that you would have to score a million times to get it to snap clean...but almost any porcelain or ceramic tile you can get your hands on can be cut with a snapper.
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He does install tile. He's very knowledgeable.

He wasn't 100% one way or the other. He basically said that a snapper will not replace a saw. Every tile is different and will react different with a snapper: some will snap clean, others will chip, etc. The quality of the snapper matters, but so does the tile type. But he's overall opinion on snappers was no where near similar to the opinions on here.

It appears, that the ideal set up is too have both the saw and snapper.

It won't replace a saw no. But like I said, on a floor where every cut is under trim which is every floor I do pretty much, the edge doesn't matter.

That being said, at my supplier he was showing them to me and went and got the thickest piece of porcelain they had, probably was 5/8 thick, and it broke perfect, no chips.

But my primary use for a snapper is where there are no visible cuts anyway. And we don't do a lot of natural stone and marble and such. I'd say at least 90% of what we install is ceramic or porcelain.
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Check out Craig's post on the tools he uses. Lots of good info. Just bought that air sled last week and what dream to use. Wanted to rent one but nobody north of Detroit had even heard of it. So I bought one. Worth the money.
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But my primary use for a snapper is where there are no visible cuts anyway. And we don't do a lot of natural stone and marble and such. I'd say at least 90% of what we install is ceramic or porcelain.
90% of cuts are hidden, that's why snappers are so great. Since they are hidden it doesn't matter what they look like. But I have even used a snapper for finished work. With a file and a stone no one will be able to tell.

That is what baffles me about anyone who supposedly claims to have knowledge and has installed tile. It tells me that they just don't know how to use one and haven't used them much, if at all, in the field.
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I have the Rubi TRS700. I've been able to do some jobs with just it and a grinder with no problem, but have also had tile I just couldn't cut worth a damn with the snapper (some porcelain from Lowes was one), but I also have the Dewalt tile saw so I'd agree that it's good to own both.
What cutting wheel do you have on the snapper? There are different wheels for different materials.
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90% of cuts are hidden, that's why snappers are so great. Since they are hidden it doesn't matter what they look like. But I have even used a snapper for finished work. With a file and a stone no one will be able to tell.



That is what baffles me about anyone who supposedly claims to have knowledge and has installed tile. It tells me that they just don't know how to use one and haven't used them much, if at all, in the field.

What's your method for say the inside corners of a tub surround? I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a snapper. I don't do much tile, but I have a tub surround and floor coming up soon.
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What's your method for say the inside corners of a tub surround? I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a snapper. I don't do much tile, but I have a tub surround and floor coming up soon.
A good wet saw.
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What's your method for say the inside corners of a tub surround? I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a snapper. I don't do much tile, but I have a tub surround and floor coming up soon.
Snapper. The back (long) wall is covered by the two sides and the sides are covered with grout or caulk. It's not like the tile is a mangled mess. A good snapper makes a nice clean break. I will stone the edge if need be. You would need a magnifying glass to see any imperfections.
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Snapper. The back (long) wall is covered by the two sides and the sides are covered with grout or caulk. It's not like the tile is a mangled mess. A good snapper makes a nice clean break. I will stone the edge if need be. You would need a magnifying glass to see any imperfections.

Thanks. Any specific stone/file you prefer?
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90% of cuts are hidden, that's why snappers are so great. Since they are hidden it doesn't matter what they look like. But I have even used a snapper for finished work. With a file and a stone no one will be able to tell.

That is what baffles me about anyone who supposedly claims to have knowledge and has installed tile. It tells me that they just don't know how to use one and haven't used them much, if at all, in the field.
All I claim is being self taught and trying to learn as much as I can. Care to explain the stone/file thing? I just figured the chipping was the finish of the tile being chipped off and nothing you could do about that.

I've got the Dewalt wetsaw that I use on showers and stuff with lots of detailed, visible cuts and I love it. But snapper and grinder are awesome for so much stuff. I learned that from here, used to always use the wetsaw before this forum cause I didn't know you could have snappers that worked worth a darn.
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Snapper. The back (long) wall is covered by the two sides and the sides are covered with grout or caulk. It's not like the tile is a mangled mess. A good snapper makes a nice clean break. I will stone the edge if need be. You would need a magnifying glass to see any imperfections.
Say you are doing 1/8" joints (what we typically do) do you keep the corner joint the same but have the caulk built up past the face of the side wall tile and out on to it slightly to hide the edge?
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Thanks. Any specific stone/file you prefer?
I have a Rubi two sided file. I use that for a rough filing, especially in corner cuts. QEP sells a similar model. Most major tile tool manufacturers sell one.

For finishing the edge I actually use an aluminum oxide sharpening stone. But they sell them specifically for tile. I just think that they are a bit rough and don't leave as nice of a finish.
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What cutting wheel do you have on the snapper? There are different wheels for different materials.
I have 6, 8, and 10. 8 for porcelain typically works great, I even tried the 6 on those Lowes porcelain tiles and quickly gave up and used my Dewalt saw instead rather than breaking up a bunch of tile. I had a living rm,hallway,3 bdrms, and a bath to get installed.
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He does install tile. He's very knowledgeable.

He wasn't 100% one way or the other. He basically said that a snapper will not replace a saw. Every tile is different and will react different with a snapper: some will snap clean, others will chip, etc. The quality of the snapper matters, but so does the tile type. But he's overall opinion on snappers was no where near similar to the opinions on here.

It appears, that the ideal set up is too have both the saw and snapper.
This is my opinion.
As far as tile goes you can set 98 out of 100 fine jobs with a snap cutter and grinder. (there are some hard edge rectified tile that a saw cut will look better to the point where you may want a saw)

I own several Sigma's and a RTC Razor and can cut all but the junkiest porcelain with them.

I do own a couple wetsaws I know right.

A Bricolina mainly for jolly cuts on site.
An Huskvarna TS60 (this saw is controversial, people either love or hate it, I personally have mine dialed in and love it.) It has the BEST water containment you can get. I bought it shortly after I sold my Raimondi Gladiator and had a large bullnose job to process and needed sawn edges to run on the bulldog.
If i were to recommend a wetsaw I would suggest the DW 24000. It is like the Glock of wetsaws,

If you are going to start spending $$ on tile tools. here is my suggestions for the first $750 (the price of a DW 24000 wet saw)

$50 for [email protected] 12x18" mini 4 wheel dollies
$40 for a husky cross table.
$75 for a 4" grinder and blade
$380 for a PLS 2/FT90 combo kit
$425 for RTC 26" razor

Ok so i am like $220 over

But I believe these tools will serve you better than money spent on a wetsaw..
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What are the dollies for?
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I presently have a DW 4-1/2" grinder with a few diamond blades.
I have a bunch of floats and trowels.
I have a set of nippers.
I was undecided between the Ridgid Beast and the DW wet saws, but I was leaning towards the DW.

Thanks for the recommendations! Much appreciated!
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Nothing like a quality snapper!
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