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Old 03-09-2015, 07:06 AM   #41
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I'd say around 40 min, the stuff is still workable but it gets progressively stiffer as you are working with it.
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I'd say around 40 min, the stuff is still workable but it gets progressively stiffer as you are working with it.
Even though the instructions say 80 minutes working time at 70 degrees. You lose 40 minutes in a 5 degree drop?
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Even though the instructions say 80 minutes working time at 70 degrees. You lose 40 minutes in a 5 degree drop?
It felt like 5 min when I was doing it myself. Even after a couple hours it's still not hard as a rock but it gets so chunky you won't be able to pack it into a tight joint.
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That would stuck. Makes we want to not use spectralock.

When I used epoxy regularly, Mapei Opticolor had a working time of 45-60 at 73 degrees. It lasted every bit of the 60 minutes.

Maybe you took more time than you thought mixing?
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I'd say around 40 min, the stuff is still workable but it gets progressively stiffer as you are working with it.
I agree. Working time doesn't seem to be what they say.

However, you can extend working time by cooling the liquid components. Put in ice or refrig for 15-20 minutes. That should get you your 60+ minutes.
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That would stuck. Makes we want to not use spectralock.

When I used epoxy regularly, Mapei Opticolor had a working time of 45-60 at 73 degrees. It lasted every bit of the 60 minutes.

Maybe you took more time than you thought mixing?
It's probably the same, I didn't check the clock I just hustled my ass as the mix got thicker and thicker.

If you do use it, take a scoop out of the bucket, toss it in a Ziploc bag and put it in the freezer, then the next day you can fill any pinholes you missed.
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I remember back in about '99, I thought it would be smart to grout a big ass countertop (about 60 square feet), a shower surround, and a countertop in the laundry all at the same time.

If I had to do it again, I would not do it of course, or pop half the load in the freezer as soon as I mixed it.

Part of the problem was the temperature. It was warm outside and I had the a/c going.

Probably not going to set the a/c at 45 degrees.

I think my body probably works better at lower temps as well.
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I think I lost 5 lbs the day I grout 1/2" x6" tile on a tub surround. 80* day and window covered so it wouldn't open. Material cooled in frig but was fricken hot in the bath. I brought a fan but didn't want it up too high. 5 units, I think. I was drenched eight hours later. Thankfully, newer grouts have been developed.
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What do you think of the new Laticrete grout that has a cement base but you add the color component? Suppose to give you the option of buying a color pallet to match competitors grouts which you can carry on the truck.
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What do you think of the new Laticrete grout that has a cement base but you add the color component? Suppose to give you the option of buying a color pallet to match competitors grouts which you can carry on the truck.
I've only read about it, but seems like an interesting idea.
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I think I lost 5 lbs the day I grout 1/2" x6" tile on a tub surround. 80* day and window covered so it wouldn't open. Material cooled in frig but was fricken hot in the bath. I brought a fan but didn't want it up too high. 5 units, I think. I was drenched eight hours later. Thankfully, newer grouts have been developed.
I'm pretty sure being over ambitious with how much area could be grouted in one shift is something most of us could have been accused of at one point. Thankfully, it's one of those lessons in hard scrubbing you really do learn
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I've done the too much grout thing too. Easy floor so I mixed two bags at once thinking I could work fast enough. I'm in great shape and rarely sweat while working but I was drenched after cleaning that grout when I realized how stiff it was when I started.
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Also thought I'd chime in on the urethane grout. A little embarrassed to say I just started using it and man, that stuff practically installs itself. Having no cement dust, just the quartz sand and resin, makes it so easy to clean. Also seems like there is almost zero waste, which is good since it costs 10x.
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I've done the too much grout thing too. Easy floor so I mixed two bags at once thinking I could work fast enough. I'm in great shape and rarely sweat while working but I was drenched after cleaning that grout when I realized how stiff it was when I started.
Two bags :what:

I'll be honest... I've only gone past my one bag rule once. And that was a commercial job with two of us grouting.
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Only way I'd ever mix up a whole bag at one time is a wide open area of 1x1s lol. I find most guys mix grout way to loose. A whole bag would be too hard to work half way through it IMO.
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I think the new Laticrete grout where you mix the colorant with water will be great. I'm eager to try it. It isn't much more expensive than the previous, and it is purported to be superior. From a warehousing perspective, it allows one to keep a fresh and small supply of the "base" and all the small packets of colorant. One no longer needs to keep a pallet of every flavor on hand.

I saw a bucket of Plasma today. I asked if they were giving them away as a promotion, and was told that they were only given one bucket!!! I also saw a bucket of rapid set Tru Color. What a day. I can hardly handle this much excitement.

I'm going to install some of the new perma color next to the older stuff and we'll see how it compares.

Hope I'm using the right names. Always get confused with perma color, tru color, etc.

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