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Old 05-08-2015, 09:58 PM   #21
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Ardex makes some fine "self curing", or, "self hydrating" modified mortars.
All manufacturers make self curing modified....they're called rapid set

But Ardex is the mad scientist of thinsets. I wish I had a distributor close to me.
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All manufacturers make self curing modified....they're called rapid set

But Ardex is the mad scientist of thinsets. I wish I had a distributor close to me.
I got to tour the Ardex manufacturing plant in Pittsburgh once. Their control room for the manufacturing process looks like something straight out of NASA. And they really do have a laboratory where they sample, test, and catalog every batch of product they produce. It's manned by guys in lab coats.

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Yeah I was there about a month ago. I concur on quality control.

The labs/testing rooms are impressive, the control room was kinda unimpressive to me, basically a couple computers. Very nice people who care about what their doing.
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..... But what's funny is I went to a local tile shop and one big flooring center that also does installs/uses subs. Both use/sell TEC and both were wrong about their products on many points.

What's funny is it seems like they have no other idea of any other products other than what they sell/use. I ask them if they have something comparable to X. I get a blank look and they say they don't know anything about their products. So I buy a few of their brand to try out, get the data/sell sheets, talk to the tech dept, then realize what I thought didn't make sense....didn't. It was wrong.
There seems to be so much knowledge (and skill sets) being lost in this trade.......
Out of 5 local tile suppliers that I use, only one has anyone who knows anything about the materials. Everywhere else, the folks in the tile showroom barely know what thinset is, and the guys in the back can't do anything better than show you the manufacturers' sell sheets. If you ask the guys at the Laticrete place for a product equivalent to a particular Mapei product, they say, "Mapei? Hmm.... I think I heard of it once. Is it for DIYers?" Go to another place and switch the names: "Schluter? Nope, never heard of it."
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Out of 5 local tile suppliers that I use, only one has anyone who knows anything about the materials. Everywhere else, the folks in the tile showroom barely know what thinset is, and the guys in the back can't do anything better than show you the manufacturers' sell sheets. If you ask the guys at the Laticrete place for a product equivalent to a particular Mapei product, they say, "Mapei? Hmm.... I think I heard of it once. Is it for DIYers?" Go to another place and switch the names: "Schluter? Nope, never heard of it."
Exactly, which is why it is up to us to educate ourselves.
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If you ask the guys at the Laticrete place for a product equivalent to a particular Mapei product, they say, "Mapei? Hmm.... I think I heard of it once. Is it for DIYers?" Go to another place and switch the names: "Schluter? Nope, never heard of it."
I think some of that is BS-ing or ribbing, but visited a store and was told something flat out wrong there--and the person was very specific in his details, but they were completely wrong. This wasn't a box store and deals with people in the trades exclusively. Unless people float pans using medium bed thinset....

But on the bright side, this was one of the products I am looking for....just not for that application.
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Exactly, which is why it is up to us to educate ourselves.
Which brings up the question, "how to handle people trying to sell you the wrong stuff or telling you things that aren't true?"
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Which brings up the question, "how to handle people trying to sell you the wrong stuff or telling you things that aren't true?"
This is not a problem if you already know the products, and what you are looking for. As you did.

I usually inform the person who is dispensing inaccurate information that they are doing so. In a polite manner, of course.
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Yeah, sometimes we are more polite than others. One of the reasons I left the bridge forum. Great example of how john and a few other of the core members were so against denshield, repeatedly calling it garbage, and some accounts were putting out in my opinion "not accurate information" about it. Amusing read, especially considering where we are now:
http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...read.php?t=577

Seems like the problem was that it had a 'gypsum' core (not exactly true) which could lead to problems if the waterproof outer layer failed. Also he could kick a hole in it.

Wonder where all these complaints went when they were such proponents of kerdi, which can be used over drywall and often is. For some reason I didn't see the same complaints as I did that were levied against denshield.

So I just smiled and walked right before they were having contractors posting their work use their website and making your pictures their property.

I think a lot of that happened before you were a member there because people there were still hardcore mud, or the new stuff, cbu. Denshield was the new kid on the block and I don't think GP would be "in cahoots" with any specific website as they aren't retail, homeowner oriented. It was fun for a while, then turned into high school bs.

Never a dull moment on the internet.
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