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Old 03-08-2012, 09:45 AM   #1
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Putting a bid in for a GC for demo and removal of 4400 sq feet of tile. It is 18'' on concrete. Just saw the blueprints and haven't looked at it in person yet. Won't come up with the final bid until I actually see the place.
Most of my tile removals are small remodels, 300-400 sq ft at a time. I usually use hammer drill, prybar and hammer to start and prep the floor as appropriate.
I never have removed this much at one time before. What are some suggestions on tools to rent, techniques, things to consider. The floor has to be taken down to concrete and ready for tenant finish when leased. My plan was to have a 3 man crew chip of the tile and thinset then grind the floor smooth with a floor grinder.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:06 AM   #2
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Hey, I am no expert at this, but I have done it the same way as you have just described. I have had great success with this in most cased, but once in a 10 x 10 bathroom it took me an entire day to get the tile off the floor and grind the entire floor as none of the mortor broke loose from the concrete slab. Will never underbid this type of work again.

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There are companies that specialize in this for a reasonable price. I would find one and tack on a buck per foot for my troubles.

I know of one in Louisville, don't know if they travel to Indy. I'll see if I can get a number.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:16 PM   #4
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Thanks Greg, ill give them a call, have to look at it before I decide to sub out or give it a try. I have used the walk behind models before, never this large. Figure I will take up some tiles at the door in the middle and at the far corner to see how it will be. And of course bid with some wiggle room for hours.
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That hurts my back thinking about it. We always use the Hilti 908 hammer. Chisel but then the flex bit. Have someone spray it with water as your using it to keep the dust down and keep the bits cool. Pump up sprayer works really good! Then grind it clean with diamond cup wheel.

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That hurts my back thinking about it. We always use the Hilti 908 hammer. Chisel but then the flex bit. Have someone spray it with water as your using it to keep the dust down and keep the bits cool. Pump up sprayer works really good! Then grind it clean with diamond cup wheel.

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I would probably also just jack-hammer it...if you put some small holes in concrete,you can just pour self leveling over floo or patching compound over dents
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I do all my own tear outs two people if its under 1000 can usally get it done in a day I did a couple of 6000 feet tear outs with a crew of six in a day I just rent a couple of stand up hiltis with the 8 in flat blade they definately work the best on the thinset for popping the tile ip I just use a one inch bit to pop it up as long as the tile is 12x12 or bigger its always pretty simple also the long stand up 4inch.scrapers are awsome for thinset removal dont hire someone else and lose money you could be making just put some elbow grease and time into it a couple if 8$an hour helpers and youll be good to go besides every tilesetter needs big tear out experience itll help you learn for the future id charge at least 2.50 sq ft
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pricing questions are sort of frowned upon here...information you provide is valuable but i would not say how much i would charge.
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I do all my own tear outs two people if its under 1000 can usally get it done in a day I did a couple of 6000 feet tear outs with a crew of six in a day I just rent a couple of stand up hiltis with the 8 in flat blade they definately work the best on the thinset for popping the tile ip I just use a one inch bit to pop it up as long as the tile is 12x12 or bigger its always pretty simple also the long stand up 4inch.scrapers are awsome for thinset removal dont hire someone else and lose money you could be making just put some elbow grease and time into it a couple if 8$an hour helpers and youll be good to go besides every tilesetter needs big tear out experience itll help you learn for the future id charge at least 2.50 sq ft
Companies that do demo charge far less than that. You could hire it out, save your back, still make a buck, and let the illegal aliens go back to where they came from.

Eight bucks an hour? Really?
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I do all my own tear outs two people if its under 1000 can usally get it done in a day I did a couple of 6000 feet tear outs with a crew of six in a day I just rent a couple of stand up hiltis with the 8 in flat blade they definately work the best on the thinset for popping the tile ip I just use a one inch bit to pop it up as long as the tile is 12x12 or bigger its always pretty simple also the long stand up 4inch.scrapers are awsome for thinset removal dont hire someone else and lose money you could be making just put some elbow grease and time into it a couple if 8$an hour helpers and youll be good to go besides every tilesetter needs big tear out experience itll help you learn for the future id charge at least 2.50 sq ft
If you can get $2.5/sf, that's pretty good. Down here the going rate is a bit less.
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If you can get $2.5/sf, that's pretty good.
According to whom? Numbers are so arbitrary across the board, it doesn't really matter what your opinion is about another's situation. Some people need to make a certain dollar amount just to drive to a site and not lose their ass...even if you could make a buck with that price.
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I dont always get that asking that every time would be robbery especially on somthing over 1000 but if I can tell its going to be alot of trouble move furniture drop clothes dust barriers etc. that's a good number to try to be at or,around for tile tearout imo

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