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Old 03-28-2015, 02:22 PM   #401
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Wow. Was talking with another tradesman and came here looking for a pic of one of my cuts. Found a bit more than I expected.

For the record, the reasons I left are:
1) A disagreement with the direction of this forum once it was sold. No hard feelings, just didn't like the future plans.
2) Really got sick of all the e-perfectionists and e-big talkers. Some, not many but some folks that have posted here try way too hard to put others down. I got thick skin but it became a negative coming here reading what the few "perfectionist" had to say to others, about themselves and trying to knock me. I just lost interest in it all.
3) Yes, I did start my own contractor forum but I was still actively posting here when it started. The only thing that came of that around here was I had my moderator tag removed. My forum was eye opening. Ultimately, it took too much time and money to run. When I folded it, I decided being off forums was a good direction. Honestly, it's been nice not dealing with any e-drama.

As for some of the comments in this thread:
1) Unless you are paying for my services, your criticism of my work is irrelevant.
2) I personally hate tiling to baseboards. However, when giving a customer the option of removing them and they say "no", even after explaining why it should be done, they get what they pay for. I literally laughed some snot out of my nose at the comments, "That is so bad", "he could have done it right", "It's just not professional".
Really? So once the shoe mldg was installed, you'd know what happened behind it? No, you wouldn't. In the case of the cut around the jam into the pantry, the HO was doing his own millwork and chose to not have the baseboards removed.
3) Sometimes, you just can't win. In one picture, I went WAY above and beyond to get a cut around a jamb and under the baseboard and the complaints followed. In the other, I made a jamb cut to the baseboards with a decent gap and will still look good when the shoe mldg is installed. The complaints followed.

In both situations, I made a cut that was necessary for the project. The clients were happy and I got paid. So for that, I'm winning!

But perhaps the biggest lesson to learn in tiling is there are literally many different ways to install. You can quote handbooks, workshops, articles all you want. But you can take 3 different guys, 3 different methods and all come out with the same results. Tiling is based off percentages. The more you do to make a successful install, the lower percentage you have of a failure. There absolutely can be multiple ways to keep that failure rate low.

When asked, I always gave out advice about how I thought something should be done, whether it was a material or method. Doesn't mean it was the best way; simply the way I do things. I've been called a lot of names here and been accused of a lot of BS too. It's all pretty funny. But to paraphrase another well-known tile guy, the price for any of my advice or suggestions is totally worth what I charged.

There are many real good folks here. Unfortunately, a few d-bags. I wish everyone well. Take care y'all!

Oh, and another for the record; my forum didn't have any advertising.
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Wow. Was talking with another tradesman and came here looking for a pic of one of my cuts. Found a bit more than I expected.



For the record, the reasons I left are:

1) A disagreement with the direction of this forum once it was sold. No hard feelings, just didn't like the future plans.

2) Really got sick of all the e-perfectionists and e-big talkers. Some, not many but some folks that have posted here try way too hard to put others down. I got thick skin but it became a negative coming here reading what the few "perfectionist" had to say to others, about themselves and trying to knock me. I just lost interest in it all.

3) Yes, I did start my own contractor forum but I was still actively posting here when it started. The only thing that came of that around here was I had my moderator tag removed. My forum was eye opening. Ultimately, it took too much time and money to run. When I folded it, I decided being off forums was a good direction. Honestly, it's been nice not dealing with any e-drama.



As for some of the comments in this thread:

1) Unless you are paying for my services, your criticism of my work is irrelevant.

2) I personally hate tiling to baseboards. However, when giving a customer the option of removing them and they say "no", even after explaining why it should be done, they get what they pay for. I literally laughed some snot out of my nose at the comments, "That is so bad", "he could have done it right", "It's just not professional".

Really? So once the shoe mldg was installed, you'd know what happened behind it? No, you wouldn't. In the case of the cut around the jam into the pantry, the HO was doing his own millwork and chose to not have the baseboards removed.

3) Sometimes, you just can't win. In one picture, I went WAY above and beyond to get a cut around a jamb and under the baseboard and the complaints followed. In the other, I made a jamb cut to the baseboards with a decent gap and will still look good when the shoe mldg is installed. The complaints followed.



In both situations, I made a cut that was necessary for the project. The clients were happy and I got paid. So for that, I'm winning!



But perhaps the biggest lesson to learn in tiling is there are literally many different ways to install. You can quote handbooks, workshops, articles all you want. But you can take 3 different guys, 3 different methods and all come out with the same results. Tiling is based off percentages. The more you do to make a successful install, the lower percentage you have of a failure. There absolutely can be multiple ways to keep that failure rate low.



When asked, I always gave out advice about how I thought something should be done, whether it was a material or method. Doesn't mean it was the best way; simply the way I do things. I've been called a lot of names here and been accused of a lot of BS too. It's all pretty funny. But to paraphrase another well-known tile guy, the price for any of my advice or suggestions is totally worth what I charged.



There are many real good folks here. Unfortunately, a few d-bags. I wish everyone well. Take care y'all!



Oh, and another for the record; my forum didn't have any advertising.

Hey, did you see tiling is its own sub forum now? Isn't that good reason to stick around?

You were gone before I got here but I've learned a lot from your posts. Wish you were still around...
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Wow. Was talking with another tradesman and came here looking for a pic of one of my cuts. Found a bit more than I expected.

For the record, the reasons I left are:
1) A disagreement with the direction of this forum once it was sold. No hard feelings, just didn't like the future plans.
2) Really got sick of all the e-perfectionists and e-big talkers. Some, not many but some folks that have posted here try way too hard to put others down. I got thick skin but it became a negative coming here reading what the few "perfectionist" had to say to others, about themselves and trying to knock me. I just lost interest in it all.
3) Yes, I did start my own contractor forum but I was still actively posting here when it started. The only thing that came of that around here was I had my moderator tag removed. My forum was eye opening. Ultimately, it took too much time and money to run. When I folded it, I decided being off forums was a good direction. Honestly, it's been nice not dealing with any e-drama.

As for some of the comments in this thread:
1) Unless you are paying for my services, your criticism of my work is irrelevant.
2) I personally hate tiling to baseboards. However, when giving a customer the option of removing them and they say "no", even after explaining why it should be done, they get what they pay for. I literally laughed some snot out of my nose at the comments, "That is so bad", "he could have done it right", "It's just not professional".
Really? So once the shoe mldg was installed, you'd know what happened behind it? No, you wouldn't. In the case of the cut around the jam into the pantry, the HO was doing his own millwork and chose to not have the baseboards removed.
3) Sometimes, you just can't win. In one picture, I went WAY above and beyond to get a cut around a jamb and under the baseboard and the complaints followed. In the other, I made a jamb cut to the baseboards with a decent gap and will still look good when the shoe mldg is installed. The complaints followed.

In both situations, I made a cut that was necessary for the project. The clients were happy and I got paid. So for that, I'm winning!

But perhaps the biggest lesson to learn in tiling is there are literally many different ways to install. You can quote handbooks, workshops, articles all you want. But you can take 3 different guys, 3 different methods and all come out with the same results. Tiling is based off percentages. The more you do to make a successful install, the lower percentage you have of a failure. There absolutely can be multiple ways to keep that failure rate low.

When asked, I always gave out advice about how I thought something should be done, whether it was a material or method. Doesn't mean it was the best way; simply the way I do things. I've been called a lot of names here and been accused of a lot of BS too. It's all pretty funny. But to paraphrase another well-known tile guy, the price for any of my advice or suggestions is totally worth what I charged.

There are many real good folks here. Unfortunately, a few d-bags. I wish everyone well. Take care y'all!

Oh, and another for the record; my forum didn't have any advertising.
Hey Angus, what's shakin' bro? Good to see ya.

Yeah, this forum is full of snarky "know it alls". Maybe not "full of", but there are enough to make the vibe very negative. I won't mention the "grinders are better than wetsaws" brigade. Oops, did I type that out loud?
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Hey Angus, what's shakin' bro? Good to see ya.

Yeah, this forum is full of snarky "know it alls". Maybe not "full of", but there are enough to make the vibe very negative. I won't mention the "grinders are better than wetsaws" brigade. Oops, did I type that out loud?
Funny how people see and remember things. I think we all agreed on that thread that there were situations that benefited from several setups. I can't recall anyone saying grinders were better than wetsaws. More efficient sure, but not better.
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That would make some great "cuts of the day".
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No doubt, and not just in the tile section.

We both got demoted to moderators within the same couple weeks.
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The man/myth/legend!!!!

I admit, I did tile for about 4 years without owning a grinder. Now, I'd like to have at least 2 with me. The big honkin wet saws are all gone too. Nothing weighing more than 45lbs anymore.
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I became part of the Briccolina brigade. Good stuff there, Craig
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No doubt, and not just in the tile section.

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Yeah, not happening. I'd rather go to your house so we can sit on the balcony and make fun of the neighbors

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