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Old 04-18-2015, 03:22 PM   #1
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3/4" Thick Tile


Hi All.
What's the best way to cut porcelain 3/4" x 2'x4' structural tile roof top of course.
Not getting into details of job just need some ideas in cutting.

Job is about 700sf -/+ with about 150 - 200
or so cuts.

Blade type, brand ?
Tile saw wet dry?
Skill saw with diamond blade? I do have dust ports for the skill saws so dust collection is a given.

I did order samples to play with prior to job.

I just noticed there is tiling section. Same post in / under masonry.

Thank you in advance for your time.
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Old 04-18-2015, 05:10 PM   #2
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I think dry cutting the 3/4" porcelain would kill a blade quickly.
Do you have the ability to wet cut on site?
What type of cut edges are you expecting (really clean or is some chip-out acceptable)?

How about a wet hand saw like this?
http://www.dewalt.com/tools/tile-saw...w-dwc860w.aspx

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Pretty much the same as cutting granite panels. Going way back, we used a worm drive skilsaw(hd77?) just keep the slide tied back.

We used the Pearl gold turbo blades with the knockout design arbor. Usually dry cut , bucket with hose near the blade, or pump sprayer.

We used makitas 4" circular saws like that Dewalt above for detail cuts.

I'm not sure if there are score and snap cutters available designed for thick "stone" if it didn't need a smooth cut.
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Is there anything more dangerous than jockeying 75 lb large slabs on a roof?
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This blade we used on the worm drive, it's a bit newer design. Dust kinda was like a cloud dry cutting but the blade lasts long, but you may need two.http://www.contractorsdirect.com/Pea...-Diamond-Blade
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Is there anything more dangerous than jockeying 75 lb large slabs on a roof?

Maybe 130lbs?
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Maybe 130lbs?
and in the rain?
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My calc. was wrong, I was thinking 1-1/4" @17lbs. Sq ft. I times it x 8, didn't sound right so I reduced it.

Guess the architect hasn't heard of 5'x10' thin porcelain?

I have a dilemma of making more money and working less.

Whatever/however you do it be safe!
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Blue ripper, accuglide, Alpha, makita!

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Now you've got an excuse to tag one of these babies.

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I've actually thought about using one of these instead of a tile wet saw.

I love how a rail saw works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUPdCLINbOk

Pricey yes.


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So a picture is forming, I'm assuming it's a flat roof over a membrane with tiles suspended over a supporting system? I've let go a pitched roof.

I like blades that will cut dry, so if insufficient water is supplied the blade won't warble like a rubber tire blown out.

You may have to cut wet if your vac system is insufficient.

I still get foolish replies when I go up to someone and say " you shouldn't breathe that granite dust" (now about 35 this guy says) "I've been doing this since 16 yoa, it's not as bad as people think"!! Ok if you say so.

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vac / drycuts: skill saw with dust boots hooked up to festi auto clean. have 2. They do an excellent job.

I have got the blade 95% locked: razor should make a clean cut.

http://www.contractorsdirect.com/sea...=relevance:asc

I don't have a wet saw big enough to handle the tiles which either going to be 2x2 or 2x4.
Don't really feel like spending about grand for saw but might consider renting.

water / electric yes on site no problems.


no archi we design / build everything. Then if plans are required we sent off to archi/engi.

2x2 / 36lbs

danger...? i guess it's all matter of perception.. not really.

i like the lil dewalt wet sirc saw.. pretty cute. Have not decided yet on cutting tools.

once I get samples I'll play with skill. my only concern with sirc saw is drifting so straight edge / guide rail would is a must. if i use the skill i'll a jig / straight edge to keep it tight. It would be nice if festie had one to attach on there tracks. I have 5 - 6 of them.

have not decided if I want to commit to wet saw rent / buy.
since i have a lot of cuts I need 2-cutting stations. This job will start with crane materials to roof top / set up / layouts etc on a Thursday.
Friday 630 start and out on Sunday at dark if need to. essentially 36hrs -/+. Bang Bang in/out. Possible clear out Mon am.


any thoughts for a wet saw with capacity to cut 2x2 or 2x4?
Any thoughts on a dry sled type like : http://www.contractorsdirect.com/Mas...ma-Tile-Cutter

the insider corners will be cut w/ grinder.

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you shouldn't breathe that granite dust" (now about 35 this guy says) "I've been doing this since 16 yoa, it's not as bad as people think"!! Ok if you say so.
http://www.google.com/search?q=grani...TF-8&oq=&gs_l=
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_o...tial_life_lost
don't forget latency period
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7701286

so much to read, so little time. . .
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a snap cutter would like you show would be great to reduce dust and increase speed. But that cutter has the breaker right infront of the wheel. How are you suppose to see your mark? Also, how many 24" cuts do you have? Would it be worth the investment?

I like the dry blade with water on a Skillsaw. The saw would have plenty of power to cut the tile using a good blade. A water system would cut the dust.
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a snap cutter would like you show would be great to reduce dust and increase speed. But that cutter has the breaker right infront of the wheel. How are you suppose to see your mark? Also, how many 24" cuts do you have? Would it be worth the investment?

I like the dry blade with water on a Skillsaw. The saw would have plenty of power to cut the tile using a good blade. A water system would cut the dust.

It looks like it would have to be a montolit.
not worried about dust. got festi's ac and dust boots on mag77's
not sure about total cuts client have not decided if they are going wit 2x4 or 2x2 tile. At least 150 of 2ft cuts. not worried about the money. I just need to be efficient and wet saws are slow.

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