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Old 02-05-2016, 02:04 PM   #61
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Bob, you are right about the legal issues and yes I was just referring to the cslb process. They will not take action against the applicant if they submit a 1099 issued by a contractor. That is, of course, unless the cslb has changed their arbitrary rules again... which they like to do frequently.

Will they go after the contractor? Possibly.
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Thanks, Phil. The applicant has an interesting decision to make.
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So just to recap...

I have three options.

1) don't apply and start working as w-2 employee for 4 years and then apply.

2) apply as an employee and use my 1099 if they ask for proof. Which they most likely will. They may or may not go after me and or the contractor since employees should not be paid by 1099 method.

3) apply as self employed and claim payments under $500. But then I would have to prove my experience as journeyman? Why would I need to prove this? Because of hr self employed status? What are the possible ways of proving this?

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So just to recap...

I have three options.

1) don't apply and start working as w-2 employee for 4 years and then apply.

2) apply as an employee and use my 1099 if they ask for proof. Which they most likely will. They may or may not go after me and or the contractor since employees should not be paid by 1099 method.

3) apply as self employed and claim payments under $500. But then I would have to prove my experience as journeyman? Why would I need to prove this? Because of hr self employed status? What are the possible ways of proving this?

Thanks guy!
No matter which direction you go your age will more than likely be a problem. You're simply too young to have been through a training/apprenticeship program and have 4 years experience at a journeyman level. You simply would've been in high school. I think waiting another 3 or 4 years minimum is your only choice.
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Great system.
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So I would have to prove I was journeyman before the 4 years? Wouldn't the 4 years themselves suffice?
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So I would have to prove I was journeyman before the 4 years? Wouldn't the 4 years themselves suffice?
You can't become a journeyman without any training. I've never heard of anyone becoming a knowledgeable tradesman without at least 5 to 7 years of training. Then after the training is when you'll need the 4 years. If you think they will believe you were born with the knowledge go ahead send in your app.
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Biggest hurdle for you is the experience. The 4 years you have in now is proof of training time, basically gets you your journeyman status Now..... 4 more years for the time working at journeyman experience gets you a happier experience applying for a license.
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The CSLB has very recently lightened up on proof requirements. As a result, we have seen a dramatic increase in the number of applications going through. You still need the four years of experience, but you no longer have to show tax records. If you are an applicant that is singled out to show more proof of your experience, they give you a list of 14 different options to prove your experience. Remember, that is IF it is. Things like material receipts, contracts, permits, invoices, etc. can be used to verify the experience. I would not apply unless I was at least 23 years old.We will not enroll a student who is younger than that unless they waive their right to a refund if their application is denied.
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From the cslb

Time spent as an apprentice is valuable learning time that cannot be skipped. Writing an invoice and collecting for services is not the same as processing the invoice, depositing the money, balancing books monthly, paying expenditures, processing payroll, and providing the government with all applicable paperwork. However, time spent performing office work does not count toward journey-level experience.

http://www.cslb.ca.gov/Contractors/J...ymen_FAQS.aspx
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What if the worker only does 500 dollars or less worth of work, and the total job is less than 500 bucks? I have a guy who replaces my screens on jobs because we can't seem to protect screen doors. (Errrr) but those are separate from the original contract. But he's under 500 bucks. I don't even know if there's a licence requirement for screens.
I believe that any and every type of job requires a contractor's license.

Window covering would be a C-61 license with a sub license category D-52 for Window Covering (probably).
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Hello,
I came here looking for some help. I want to apply for a contractor's license but I am not sure if I will meet the requirements. I have over 20 years experience in Landscaping (I was a supervisor for over 10 years). The problem is that much of that experience is not recent. They require 4 years within the past 10 years and the last time I was employed working in the field was in 2009 and it was not the full year as I was on unemployment for more than half of the year. 2008 I was also on unemployment for much of the year. 2007 was the last full year.

I am looking for some advice/help on whether I should apply or not. I probably will not be able to provide proof of the 4 years experience since I do not meet it within the last 10 years. Is there any way around this. Any help would be appreciated!
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There is no way around the 4-year requirement within the last 10 years except: If you served in the military in the last 10 years or if you were licensed in California in the same classification for which you are applying (in this case, no proof of experience is required no matter how long ago it was). The only other option is education. Do you have a degree from college? Did you get a certificate of completion from some vocational training?
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I currently hold an active C10 in California. For the last 6 years I have been working as a Superintendent for a firm that holds a California A, B, and C10 License. We build Wind and PV plants, O and M Buildings, Electrical Substations, OH and UG Distribution and Transmission lines. Trades we self perform extend from Heavy Civil, Carpentry, HVAC, Plumbing, Concrete, Electrical, Structural Steel Erection, Concrete, Road Building, ETC.

I am planning to add both the A and B classifications to my license. Should I use just 2 copies of the same work experience certification for CSLB so as not to raise any red flags? My employer is a little Gun shy about signing work certifications right now, as 2 guys have just left and started their own contracting firms.
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You would have to submit a work experience form for each classification. And, if you have to take the trade exams you can only submit one application at a time. Meaning you cannot have two exam apps in the cslb system together.

You would apply, take the exam, pass, repeat.
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I assumed that was the case about 2 applications at one time. Is there an issue with me using the exact same descriptions in the work experience form, or would there be an issue using the building trades for the B form, then 3 months later using the Civil, Steel, and Roads for the A form?
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The work experience outlines must be trade specific. You could not use the same outline for two different trades.
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Would this work for the General Engineering work experience statement.

Earthworks, setting grade, pad building, road Building, rock surfacing, Structural Steel assembly, Setting Large Electrical Equipment 10-150,000lbs, Concrete Form/Pour Slabs/Piers/Oil-Containment, Electrical work 120V to 500kV, Overhead/Underground, Splicing/Terminations.

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